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Old 04-02-2007, 07:06 AM   #24 (permalink)
The_Jazz
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Samcol, this is in my Top 5 Most Ignorant Post Ever. I can't even be nice about it; this is absolute garbage.

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Originally Posted by samcol
That's the difference between an immigrant who can speak English and one who cannot.
Other than the lanugage skill, what other difference is there? By my count, millions.

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If you can't speak English you are a Mexican living in a Mexican community in America.
Unless they're Indian. Or Chinese. Or Guatamalan. Or Honduran. Or Brazilian. Or French. Or Bulgarian. Or Russian. Or Lebanese. You get the idea.

Let me assume for the second that you're not as ignorant as you sound here and point out that every single immigrant group that's ever moved to North America sets up it's own neighborhood. Ever heard of the Ukrainian Village in Chicago? Not that many Ukrainians there any more since the Peurto Ricans moved in a few years ago, but it used to be a place where there was more signs in Cyrillic than English. My own neighborhood in Chicago was predominantly Swedish until about 20 years, but it's now more heterogenous. I'm not even going to mention, Greektown, Little Italy, Chinatown, Little Saigon or other neighborhoods that have counterparts in lots of other cities around the country.

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If you can speak English you are no longer bound to your cultural community to function in America. By learning English you gain so much more freedom and opportunity in this country than only knowing your native language.
True, but it takes time to learn a new language. Personally, I've always had trouble learning new languages, as seen by the solid C's I posted in high school and college in several languages. It wasn't for lack of trying - I'm just not very good at it. Expecting people to show up being fluent in English is completely unreasonable and goes against the basic reason that all of our ancestors moved here.

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All of my great grandparents could barely speak English, grandparents are bilingual, and my parents can only speak English. Every other immigrant class eventually learned English, why should Hispanic people be different?
And how long have most of them been here? By your own admission, your ancestors had difficulty with the language.

So is this double standard applied only to Mexicans or do you hold it against everyone that looks different than you?
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