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and you know mixed, i think i like you more and more as time goes by.
dave: which "groups" are you talking about? some den of unwashed acid-dropping turtle-fucking profligates and whores? i don't know, i'm down in the middle of the bible belt, and i've run across my share of just-out-of-highschool-singing-in-the-choir girls, daddy is a deacon, mommy plays the organ....and she's dropping adderol and taking on group sex. not to mention little old me. i find the ceremonial nature of this creepy, and the passing of oaths, the misogynistic nature, etc. someone wants to raise their kids traditionally, i could give less than a shit. but this is just fucked up. i'd be just as creeped out if some newage hippy group had a ceremony where they celebrated their daughter's first period by having her promise to all respect her sexual nature and to be open minded and sexually exhuberant throughout her life. i don't have any problem with that philosophy either, but you don't need the ceremony, and it certainly doesn't need to seem a mock up of marriage.
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