I can do line by line too.
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Originally Posted by willravel
Did you vote for the sheriff? And did that man have a history of such behavior? If you said yes to both, then yes.
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Actually, I did vote for that sheriff, and I'd do it again because he did a great job in decreasing crime. It's unfortunate that he made decisions that removed him from office, but I chose to judge his tenure by all of his actions, not by a single mistake. **Note - although he won't admit it, I think Bush has made cargo ship-loads of mistakes and that his administration could be seen as a series of mistakes.
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We weren't responsible for the Cuban Missile Crisis because we didn't vote for Castro.
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I don't know why Castro is relavent since Cuban involvement was limited to geography - it was a US/Soviet crisis. And no, we didn't vote for Khrushchev (not Castro), but we did vote for Kennedy, who's the one that put the bombers in Turkey to provoke the crisis in the first place.
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We weren't responsible for the Berlin Wall because we aren't Russians.
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Your confusion of Soviets and Russians aside, that wasn't my point. The fall of the Berlin Wall was seen as the crowning achievement of the Reagan/Bush I era. It is by all measures a great foreign policy success, and my point in including was that the voters weren't responsible - those in power were.
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We are responsible for putting man on the moon because we voted Kennedy into office.
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No, we aren't. If anything, we're responsible for electing Johnson as VP since he was the one who actually presided over the Apollo program. And it was the good folks at NASA who were actually responsible anyway. What did the office of POTUS do other than lend support and publicity?
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If people are too dumb to realize that an invasion without provocation that resulted from misleading congress and the Patriot Act are a bad omen, maybe they should think about not reproducing.
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If this administration existed in a perfect vacuum, I might agree with you, but there were obviously other things that voters cared about. I'd love to see dc_dux wander in with some statistics on it since I'm too lazy to do it myself.
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So people aren't responsible for who they vote for? Well there goes all the meaning behind voting. Let's all vote for who we think would win American Idol!
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Again, we are responsible for voting. We are not responsible for the actions of those in office once they are there. Are the people of San Francisco responsible for their mayor sleeping with his assistant/wife's friend? I don't think so. Were the people of Tennessee responsible when Ray Blanton started selling pardons to convicted murders? I don't think so.
My point is that you and host have both argued that there have been illegal acts and that the Republican-voting public is responsible for those acts. If those acts are illegal, then how can the voters be responsible?