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Originally Posted by The_Jazz
will, by your logic, I'm responsible for voting for a sheriff that had inmates beaten in jail. It's an illegal act, but I'm somehow responsible.
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Did you vote for the sheriff? And did that man have a history of such behavior? If you said yes to both, then yes.
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Originally Posted by The_Jazz
I think you're misusing "responsibility". We the voters aren't responsible for the Bush's administration's actions, whether they be failures or successes. We weren't responsible for the Cuban Missle Crisis, the fall of the Berlin Wall or putting a man on the moon. There were some voters who were by their individual actions, but I completely reject the notion that those who voted for Bush in 2000 and/or 2004 are responsible for anything done by his administration.
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We weren't responsible for the Cuban Missile Crisis because we didn't vote for Castro. We weren't responsible for the Berlin Wall because we aren't Russians. We are responsible for putting man on the moon because we voted Kennedy into office. If people are too dumb to realize that an invasion without provocation that resulted from misleading congress and the Patriot Act are a bad omen, maybe they should think about not reproducing.
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Originally Posted by The_Jazz
Feeling that you "made a mistake" is not the same as feeling or being responsible for someone else's actions. You may feel that you miscast your ballot, but that has nothing to do with whether or not you are responsible.
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So people aren't responsible for who they vote for? Well there goes all the meaning behind voting. Let's all vote for who we think would win American Idol!
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Originally Posted by Rekna
I think what will is trying to say that if you know someone is willing, capable, and intending to do X and you vote for him and then he does X. Then you are partially responsible for X happening. I would agree with this statement.
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Precisely. The Patriot Act and the Iraqi War came BEFORE the 2004 elections. It's not like everything was roses until 2004 and then Bush turned into a monster.
As voting as a responsibility, people are responsible for who they vote for.
//end threadjack