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Originally Posted by The_Jazz
As a follow-up to BOR's post, does voting for Clinton mean that I got a blowjob from Monica too? 'Cause I sure don't remember that...
I also voted for Rahm Emanuel when I lived in his district. Am I responsible for the 2006 election?
Are all the Iraqi's that voted for Saddam in 2002 responsible for his attrocities?
Moral superiority is great so long as you can actually back it up. I don't see how you can back up that statement, will.
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BOR and The_Jazz ....if you are not where willravel and I are, as far as your reactions to a US president who has committed crimes against humanity and against the constitution....i.e. against us....against our rights and protections, under the law....what would have to happen....what greater degree of offenses would a POTUS have to commit to draw a similar reaction to ours....from either of you?
Do you not see, the if the law can be altered....abused.....distorted....broken....to do it to one person....or to break the sovereign protections of another country, without provocation....then you , or another country, other than Iraq....could be next?
Your comparisons of oral sex and voting for Rahm Emanuel, when compared to our reaction to the capital crimes....the treason of Mr. Bush, and his regime, are....frankly...revealing in that you have no grasp of what the description in the OP is relating to all of us....or is insulting....and it can reasonably be described, IMO....as enabling where we are descending to, as a people protected by a constitution that used to grant to government, only what was clearly specified....in a nation that once stood resolutely against pre-emptive, i.e, aggressive war, and torture.....
and reconmike....if everyone who submitted to selective service, after the most trusted man in America, Walter Cronkite, told us in mid-1968 that the "war" in Viet Nam was wrong....unwinable...an instrusion into the domestic strife of another nation, and if Daniel Ellsberg had been able to speak about what he knew, from as early as 1965, about the futility of pursuing "victory" in Viet Nam....had instead, dismissed selective service, and the authority behind it....the exiting Johnson admin., and the incoming Nixon admin., how many more Vietnamese, and Americans would be alive today.
You, and so many others....followed orders....did the "right thing", in your own minds....right over a cliff. Vietnam was no "noble" war. Backing your country in contrived aggression on other nations is a choice. If you make the wrong choice, the people who die as a result of the lies of your leaders, and of your own blinding denial, are on your leaders, and on you. No one died because I blindly followed the "my country, right or wrong" jingoism.
We all must think for ourselves....questioning all authority...it's as American as apple pie to do so, reflexively, and it's a dirty li'l secret, that if everybody did it, Vietnam would have been over by 1969, and Mr. Bush would not be enabled to the extent that he has been able to do the damage to each of our rights....under the law....that our described in the thead OP.