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Old 03-27-2007, 05:20 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Ol' Man Mose
I hope my previous post has cleared the former up for you. Seeing personal opinions are tapu here, yell out if you need exhaustive links proving the latter.
I'm going to do something unusual and turn what would be a behind-the-scenes conversation with Ol' Man Mose into something more public. The above is an oblique reference to some correspondence between he and I, for the backstory.

Ol' Man, personal opinions are what keep the Politics board chugging along. It is the meat and potatoes of this part of TFP and would not exist without everyone's personal opinions and the freedom to share them. Where you and I have run afoul in the past is personal attacks. It is fine to disagree with someone in a polite way, as you've done thus far in the thread, but it's not acceptable to be insulting, as you've done in some of our correspondence. That's all that I've ever warned you about. Subtle jabbing the staff for trying to keep a modocum of civility in this board is neither appreciated nor warranted. I trust that you'll allow us to do our jobs from here on out.


Now for what I really wanted to post anyway:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ol' Man Mose
Obviously, going by your first sentence, what you meant to say was that although you recognized I was drawing a correlation between the treatment of the poor and religion, you choose not to see it.

You most probably also don’t see the correlation between America’s exclusive brand of Christinsanity and its many wars of conquest.
I still don't see any link between the traffic articles and your article on the nature of Protestantism. At best, one third of homeless are veterans. That leaves the vast majority as non-veterans. You seem to be trying to draw some sort of link between what could be people causing slower traffic and the Bush Administration's foreign policy. What I don't think you realize is that there were similar crackdowns in the pre-Bush era. The Chicago police famously stopped activists from helping the homeless living on Lower Wacker drive during the heat wave of 1995. Chicago's not in Texas. A close friend of mine protested a parking ticket he received in Des Moines in the early 90's while he was working for the Catholic Worker home, but he lost.

I don't see where you've drawn any sort of correlation treatment of the poor by society at large and religion. Are there religious fanatics on the Orlando police force that are demanding that homeless not be fed? Do you have any evidence to substantiate that this isn't what it apprears to be - a local traffic problem?

And I don't see any correlation between Christianity and American foreign wars, namely because there isn't an "American brand of Christianity". I think that quite the opposite is the truth - there are multiple competing brands of Christianity that ebb and flow over time. For instance, the Catholic Church is very important in some communities and virtually non-existant in others.

I need you to spell out your arguement for me better. I don't follow it at all.
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