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Originally Posted by willravel
No evidence exists to suggest that any god or gods are real, therefore the absolute belief in god is unreasonable. Ir's more an argument of reason than science, but I feel it adequately explains my thoughts.
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Explain to me how an absolute belief in God is unreasonable without having to resort to the "Well, there's no evidence of his existence!" argument (Which is fallacious in nature)?
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For everything that we know, there is proof. The supernatural by definition doesn't have scientific proof. Therefore, the supernatural cannot be known.
Doesn't that make sense?
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...Didn't I state the same thing around thirty responses or so? I'm glad you finally came to this conclusion (Better late than never).
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Of course it is. Would you care to tell me how absolute belief in god is as logical than looking at evidence and coming to the reasonable conclusion that god probably doesn't exist?
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No, your position isn't any more 'logical' than mine is. Conversely, you'll find that I've never made a claim stating that my position is any more 'logical' than any position anyone can take regarding the non-existence of God. You, however, have (On numerous occasions) stated that a disbelief in God is more rational than a belief in God as a lack of proof for existence is apparently the same thing as proof of non-existence (Which, as I'm sure you know by now, isn't the same thing).
To make use of Wiki again, such an argument is generally classified as an
argument from ignorance.
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And why is that? Why do you believe in the Judeo-Christian god and not Zeus?
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Quite simply because I do (I know what you're getting at and I've already acknowledged that they both have about the same chance of existing as the other).
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Something without how is something to be skeptical about.
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It's nothing to be skeptical about because, once again, science can't qualify religious beliefs and vice versa. Doing so will inevitably lead to problems (As seen in atheists trying to rationalize God's existence based on scientific evidence-- Or a lack thereof).
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I was explaining my experience.
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No, you were trying to pass off your 'experiences' as absolutes.
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That's because while there is no evidence to suggest that god is real, there is evidence to suggest that god isn't real. Remember my first post? Avoid this all you want, but it's pretty clear.
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There's evidence to suggest that God isn't real? Really...? Where is it? I'm really praying that your 'evidence' isn't a 'lack of evidence'.
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You're wrong. I didn't take sides on the future concept of discovering god. We may prove his existence or we may discover that he's fiction. That's speculation. The point is that based on all evidence today, the only reasonable conclusion one can come to is that god probably doesn't exist. When more information becomes available, then we can change the conclusion as necessary.
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I will continue to say this until you finally understand, but the
MOST science can state regarding the God is that He might exist outside the absence of scientific evidence.
That's it. Nothing more and nothing less. Any other claims you make regarding God and science are wrong. Plain and simple. End of story. Sorry.
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How very unscientific of you. How could you be so arrogant as to say that god is unprovable? You believe god to be inexplicable....well I'm sure there were plenty of people who thought that the sun was inexplicable at one time. They were wrong.
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Ummm... Hypocrite? Didn't you just state:
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Originally Posted by willravel
For everything that we know, there is proof. The supernatural by definition doesn't have scientific proof. Therefore, the supernatural cannot be known.
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Yes, I believe God to be inexplicable. You, yourself, acknowledged that God is supernatural and that the supernatural can't be explained so why are you now trying to take that statement back?
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Explain the argument's merit and reasoning or take it back.
And you have absolutely no evidence to support that racist claim.
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...Are you seriously serious about having no evidence? Ok... How about I make you a deal? I'll start a new topic and we can go debate it there (Since, after all, I did state it a topic for discussion in a new thread)?
And racist claim? Pffft! "Godless whites! You're all going to Hell with your devil worshiping selves!" would be a racist remark
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Oh how dare I question your claim? I should naturally assume that anything that is qualified with "slightly off topic" is true beyond question.
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...Right. That response makes a whole world of sense. I feel as if I'm typing responses out for my own personal viewing pleasure.