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Old 03-26-2007, 08:23 AM   #37 (permalink)
Dilbert1234567
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Originally Posted by shakran
Involuntary manslaughter means YOU killed the guy. That would be a bullshit charge.
no it doesn't
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Originally Posted by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manslaughter
Involuntary manslaughter, sometimes called criminally negligent homicide in the United States or culpable homicide in Scotland, occurs where there is no intention to kill or cause serious injury but death is due to recklessness or criminal negligence.

Criminal negligence

Negligence consists of conduct by an individual which is not reasonable -- that is, the individual did not act with the care and caution of a reasonable person in similar circumstances. This "reasonable person" is fictitious, of course, but reflects the standard of conduct which society wishes to impose. Violation of this standard may lead to civil liability for the consequences of the negligent behavior.

Negligence rises to the level of criminal negligence where the conduct reaches a higher degree of carelessness or inattention, perhaps to the point of indifference.
it fits perfectly

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Originally Posted by shakran
so you're advocating false and malicious prosecution? That's a really good way to get the state sued.
not at all, there is suspicion that they did something wrong, if the DA feels there is enough suspicion, it will go to trial, and if the jury agrees there was a crime committed, they will be found guilty, thats how the legal system works.

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Originally Posted by shakran
And yet you glibly advocate that we charge them with a felony and prosecute them? That's irresponsible at best. You're acting as though everyone automatically does anything they're told to do. If I tell you to kill yourself, then hey, you don't actually have to kill yourself. If you do, that's your decision.

Your argument would set a very, VERY bad precedent. Basically we're now making it a crime to give bad advice. So, for instance, if I thought a certain stock was a good idea and you took my advice, and then the stock crashed, I could be held responsible. If I tell you to buy a Yugo, you could prosecute me for giving you bad advice.

America has already gone far enough into the realm of no personal responsibility. Why should we now want to shed ALL shreds of responsibility?
I'm for personal responsibility, both the responsibility of the person who committed suicide, and for the people who built him up to it.

I'm not saying they are guilty, I'm saying an investigation should look into whether or not they are responsible.
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