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Old 03-25-2007, 09:14 PM   #10 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by Dilbert1234567
I'd like the people who egged him on should be charged with involuntary manslaughter. having lost a friend to suicide, i know that all threats should be taken seriously. if we'd all take a second to hug a stranger, i swear we'd see a drastic drop in suicides.

if anyone needs a hug in California, give me a buzz.

I agree with this, the people egging him on should be charged with Britain's version of involuntary manslaughter maybe just manslaughter period.

This person obviously had issues and needed someone. Perhaps this person just wanted someone to talk to and felt he had friends he could trust in the chatroom. Perhaps, he started talking to someone whom he considered "a friend" and the friend went about "insulting" him, thus pushing him over the edge. Perhaps, he started getting more depressed as the taunting continued and he started talking about how the world would be better off without him, people started goading him and teasing him worse and the scenario just continued until the man was dead.

One issue I have is the Moderator could have and should have "cut the feed" as soon as he showed a rope. The Moderator should have also called the police or someone nearby immediately and hoped to save a man.

Most people talk and attempt suicide for attention, BUT need to be listened to, not harassed and made to feel worse, because scenarios like this can and will play themselves out. The person seeks attention, people goad and dare the person to do it, and the person does to save face.

We have no idea what truly happened or what was said to push the man that far, but I feel sorry for his kids and ashamed people actually goaded him that far.

I was 12 years old had just had a date where we went and saw "Poltergeist". The girl and I made out (kissed a few times and held hands.... back then for a 12 year old that was big)... she said we were a couple. I get home ride over to a friend's house and he starts razzing me, saying she never said that and blah blah blah..... so we call her and of course she is telling him she never said that. I'm 12, I was hurt and so I pulled a knife out of the kitchen and thought I'd slit my wrist (I'd show them!).

But I didn't want to, I was just hurt and didn't know what to do. I felt betrayed. I ran out of the house and was just going to go home and return the knife later. Instead my friend followed me and when he caught up to me, he thought I was joking about slicing my wrist, so he started laughing and telling me to do it.

As I started, he lunged to grab the knife and I ended up slicing his hand, I saw blood and ran home.

I told my dad what happened, and he first calmed me down by saying my "friend" and "girlfriend" were probably teasing me and it went too far. Then my dad called over and my "friend" denied my slicing him. Turned out he wasn't supposed to have anyone over and so he was more scared to say anything than I had been.

The cut wasn't much at all, and he was just going to "kick my ass at school" when he saw me.

Needless to say we both got into serious trouble.

How my experience relates to this story is simple..... I can see how someone who is just hurt and looking for someone to talk to, and instead gets insulted by the friends he trusts can end up in the heat of the moment not thinking straight do something very stupid.

I just think in a scenario like that the chatters should have just either ignored him and allowed the moderator to try to talk to him or backed down and tried to rationalize with him while someone called for help.

I'd also hate to be 1 of those 50 that saw it happen...... their lives will forever be changed and some of them will feel massive guilt and depression themselves.
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I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"
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