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roachboy · 03-22-2007, 09:10 AM

why are we doing set theory?

when i looked at the op, i saw nothing particularly problematic with it, so didn't look into plantinga, who seems to offer very little in the way of modifications to the problems that have accompanied these proofs from the outset.
besides, if you try to revisit old philosophical questions using set theory, things end up getting tangled up in more or less the same way as they do without set theory--problems of self-referentiality, of ground, bothersome elements like the incompleteness theorem, etc. there is a group of french mathematicians and philosophers who tried this project, publishing things under the pseudonym of bourbaki....the value of the bourbaki project is that you can see the problems (even as they tried to wave them away)--so i didnt see any particular need to revert to set theory--it wouldnt make the logical problems with this version of the ontological proof go away.

03-22-2007, 09:10 AM	#9 (permalink)
roachboy Super Moderator Location: essex ma	why are we doing set theory? when i looked at the op, i saw nothing particularly problematic with it, so didn't look into plantinga, who seems to offer very little in the way of modifications to the problems that have accompanied these proofs from the outset. besides, if you try to revisit old philosophical questions using set theory, things end up getting tangled up in more or less the same way as they do without set theory--problems of self-referentiality, of ground, bothersome elements like the incompleteness theorem, etc. there is a group of french mathematicians and philosophers who tried this project, publishing things under the pseudonym of bourbaki....the value of the bourbaki project is that you can see the problems (even as they tried to wave them away)--so i didnt see any particular need to revert to set theory--it wouldnt make the logical problems with this version of the ontological proof go away. __________________ a gramophone its corrugated trumpet silver handle spinning dog. such faithfulness it hear it make you sick. -kamau brathwaite Last edited by roachboy; 03-22-2007 at 09:16 AM..