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Lennonite Priest
Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA
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This is what is wrong with the USA... (Caution adult language and attitude)
This is what is wrong with this country:
Link:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070321/...ed_prosecutors
Quote:
Bush warns Dems to take offer in firings
By LAURIE KELLMAN, Associated Press Writer 16 minutes ago
A defiant President Bush warned Democrats Tuesday to accept his offer to have top aides speak about the firings of federal prosecutors only privately and not under oath, or risk a constitutional showdown from which he would not back down.
Democrats' response was swift and firm: They said they would start authorizing subpoenas as soon as Wednesday for the White House aides.
"Testimony should be on the record and under oath. That's the formula for true accountability," said Patrick Leahy (news, bio, voting record), D-Vt., chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee.
Bush, in a late-afternoon statement at the White House, said he would fight any subpoena effort in court.
"We will not go along with a partisan fishing expedition aimed at honorable public servants," he said. "It will be regrettable if they choose to head down the partisan road of issuing subpoenas and demanding show trials when I have agreed to make key White House officials and documents available."
He added that federal prosecutors work for him and it is natural to consider replacing them. While saying he disapproved of how the decisions were explained to Congress, he insisted "there is no indication that anybody did anything improper."
Bush gave his embattled attorney general, Alberto Gonzales, a boost during an early morning call and ended the day with a public statement repeating it. "He's got support with me," Bush said.
The Senate, meanwhile, voted to strip Gonzales of his authority to fill U.S. attorney vacancies without Senate confirmation. Democrats contend the Justice Department and White House purged eight federal prosecutors, some of whom were leading political corruption investigations, after a change in the Patriot Act gave Gonzales the new authority.
Several Democrats, including presidential hopefuls Hillary Rodham Clinton, Barrack Obama, Joe Biden and John Edwards, have called for Gonzales' ouster or resignation. So have a handful of Republican lawmakers.
"What happened in this case sends a signal really through intimidation by purge: 'Don't quarrel with us any longer,'" said Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (news, bio, voting record), D-R.I., a former U.S. attorney who spent much of Monday evening paging through 3,000 documents released by the Justice Department.
Bush said his White House counsel, Fred Fielding, told lawmakers they could interview presidential counselor Karl Rove, former White House Counsel Harriet Miers and their deputies — but only on the president's terms: in private, "without the need for an oath" and without a transcript.
The president cast the offer as virtually unprecedented and a reasonable way for Congress to get all the information it needs about the matter.
"If the Democrats truly do want to move forward and find the right information, they ought to accept what I proposed," Bush said. "If scoring political points is the desire, then the rejection of this reasonable proposal will really be evident for the American people to see."
The House Judiciary Committee was expected to authorize subpoenas for Rove, Miers and their deputies on Wednesday; the Senate Judiciary Committee was to follow suit a day later.
Bush said he worried that allowing testimony under oath would set a precedent on the separation of powers that would harm the presidency as an institution.
"My choice is to make sure that I safeguard the ability for presidents to get good decisions," he said. "If the staff of a president operated in constant fear of being hauled before various committees to discuss internal deliberations, the president would not receive candid advice and the American people would be ill-served."
Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., who is leading the Senate probe into the firings, spoke dismissively of the deal offered by the White House:
"It's sort of giving us the opportunity to talk to them, but not giving us the opportunity to get to the bottom of what really happened here."
Even without oaths, Bush aides would be legally required to tell the truth to Congress. But without a transcript of their comments, "it would be almost meaningless to say that they would be under some kind of legal sanction," Schumer complained.
Fielding's meeting on Capitol Hill came a few hours after Bush spoke with Gonzales in an early morning phone call — their first conversation since the president had acknowledged mistakes by his longtime friend and lawmakers of both parties had called for Gonzales' ouster.
The White House offered to arrange interviews with Rove, Miers, deputy White House counsel William Kelley and J. Scott Jennings, a deputy to White House political director Sara Taylor, who works for Rove.
"Such interviews would be private and conducted without the need for an oath, transcript, subsequent testimony or the subsequent issuance of subpoenas," Fielding said in a letter to the chairmen of the Senate and House Judiciary committees and their ranking Republicans.
He said documents released by the Justice Department "do not reflect that any U.S. attorney was replaced to interfere with a pending or future criminal investigation or for any other improper reason."
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We have the Dems. looking at this as a way to get Bush, Bush going totally power mad.
Yes, Bush has gone too far and needs to be spanked. But I foresee a replay of Clinton's years where nothing gets done to forward the nation.
Bush needs to do 1 of 4 things....
Crown himself Holy Emperor discharge Congress and just do away with the games, just tell everyone you want total control George and stop playing the games at tax payer's costs.
admit problems and WORK with Congress so that issues can be dealt with fastly and they can all move on and do what we elected them to do,
just resign and admit you had no idea what happened but you take responsibility
or continue what you are doing, not getting anything done, spending BILLIONS upon BILLIONS by the time this is all over and lose any chance your party has to get the Presidency or Congress back in '08.
What happened to Presidents and Congresses that actually worked and put out bills that were meant to help the country.
Now, all they care about is fighting each other.... nothing gets done and we continue to freefall..... while they all play their fiddles and watch Rome burn.
IT'S ENOUGH..... GET WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE DONE AND RUN THE FUCKING COUNTRY ALREADY....... DO WHAT WE PUT YOU INTO OFFICE TO DO!!!!!!!!!
In the words of Howard Beale (played by Peter Finch) in the classic movie Network...................
Quote:
Howard Beale: [shouting] You've got to say, 'I'm a HUMAN BEING, Goddamnit! My life has VALUE!' So I want you to get up now. I want all of you to get up out of your chairs. I want you to get up right now and go to the window. Open it, and stick your head out, and yell,
'I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!' I want you to get up right now, sit up, go to your windows, open them and stick your head out and yell - 'I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore!' Things have got to change. But first, you've gotta get mad!... You've got to say, 'I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!' Then we'll figure out what to do about the depression and the inflation and the oil crisis. But first get up out of your chairs, open the window, stick your head out, and yell, and say it:
Howard Beale: [screaming at the top of his lungs] "I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!"
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To wit I open my window in cyberspace............... and I shout (this isn't just to Bush but ALL elected officials, regardless of party, abusing their power). Anyone care to join me???????? come on now don't be shy...............
GODAMNIT I'M FUCKING MAD AS HELL AND I REFUSE TO TAKE IT ANYMORE............ I AM A HUMAN BEING THIS IS MY COUNTRY AND I REFUSE TO LET ANYMORE DUMB FUCKING INSANE EGO MANIACAL BASTARDS RUN IT.... IF YOU REFUSE TO ANSWER TO THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR YOU..... YOU NEED KICKED OUT AND TRIED FOR TREASON, BECAUSE YOU HOLD THE FAITH TRUST AND SAFETY OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE AND YOU SHIT ON THEM...... FUCK YOU AND WE DESERVE BETTER, WE NEED BETTER AND WE WANT BETTER GO FUCK YOURSELF
Management does not necessarily hold these views and is deeply sorry if anyone is offended by the language and attitude.... perhaps we should just play fucking elevator happy music for you and we should just sit the fuck down and shut up....... we now return you to you thread and ohhhh have a nice day..... 
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I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"
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