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Old 03-20-2007, 01:18 AM   #171 (permalink)
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Let's see...we have a building, WTC-7 that was reported to have been built with extra structural integrity designed into it:
Quote:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...=&pagewanted=1
COMMERCIAL PROPERTY: The Salomon Solution; A Building Within a Building, at a Cost of $200 Million
By MARK MCCAIN
Published: February 19, 1989

BEFORE it moves into a new office tower in downtown Manhattan, Salomon Brothers, the brokerage firm, intends to spend nearly two years and more than $200 million cutting out floors, adding elevators, reinforcing steel girders, upgrading power supplies and making other improvements in its million square feet of space.

The work, which began last month at Seven World Trade Center, reflects both the adaptability of steel-framed towers and the extraordinary importance of fail-safe computer and telephone systems for the brokerage industry. According to many real estate experts, no company has ever made such extensive alterations to a new office building in Manhattan......

.......After studying more than 50 options throughout the New York region, Salomon signed a 20-year lease for 22 floors - each spanning nearly an acre - at Seven World Trade Center, an office tower that has been largely vacant since Silverstein Properties completed it two years ago.

''We really had a time constraint,'' explained Gedale B. Horowitz, a senior executive director of Salomon. ''And we were driven very much by technology. We had to find a building that could accommodate our needs, including major-sized trading floors.''

Much of the new electrical, air-conditioning and mechanical equipment will serve three double-height trading floors. To create the extra height, workers are removing most of three existing floors, using jackhammers to demolish concrete slabs and torches to remove steel decking and girders beneath the concrete.

After the girders are cut into sections small enough to fit into a construction elevator they will be sold as scrap for about 4 cents a pound.

In some office buildings, that alteration would be impossible, but Silverstein Properties tried to second-guess the needs of potential tenants when it designed Seven World Trade Center as a speculative project.

''We built in enough redundancy to allow entire portions of floors to be removed without affecting the building's structural integrity, on the assumption that someone might need double-height floors,'' said Larry Silverstein, president of the company. ''Sure enough, Salomon had that need.

''And there were many other ways that we designed as much adaptability as possible into the building because we knew that flexible layout is important to large space users.'' .....
...and from a NIST web page:
Quote:
http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm
National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) Federal Building and Fire Safety Investigation of the World Trade Center Disaster

Answers to Frequently Asked Questions

....3. How could the WTC towers have collapsed without a controlled demolition <b>since no steel-frame, high-rise buildings have ever before or since been brought down due to fires?</b> Temperatures due to fire don't get hot enough for buildings to collapse.

The collapse of the WTC towers was not caused either by a conventional building fire or even solely by the concurrent multi-floor fires that day. Instead, NIST concluded that the WTC towers collapsed because: (1) the impact of the planes severed and damaged support columns, dislodged fireproofing insulation coating the steel floor trusses and steel columns, and widely dispersed jet fuel over multiple floors; and (2) the subsequent unusually large, jet-fuel ignited multi-floor fires weakened the now susceptible structural steel. No building in the United States has ever been subjected to the massive structural damage and concurrent multi-floor fires that the towers experienced on Sept. 11, 2001.

......14. Why is the NIST investigation of the collapse of WTC 7 (the 47-story office building that collapsed on Sept. 11, 2001, hours after the towers) <b>taking so long to complete?</b> Is a controlled demolition hypothesis being considered to explain the collapse?

When NIST initiated the WTC investigation, <b>it made a decision not to hire new staff to support the investigation. After the June 2004 progress report on the WTC investigation was issued, the NIST investigation team stopped working on WTC 7</b> and was assigned full-time through the fall of 2005 to complete the investigation of the WTC towers. With the release and dissemination of the report on the WTC towers in October 2005, the investigation of the WTC 7 collapse resumed. Considerable progress has been made since that time, including the review of nearly 80 boxes of new documents related to WTC 7, the development of detailed technical approaches for modeling and analyzing various collapse hypotheses, and the selection of a contractor to assist NIST staff in carrying out the analyses. It is anticipated that a draft report will be released by early 2007.
click here for the rest of the NIST response to question 14   click to show 
In 1989, Larry Silverman boasted to the NY Times about the structural integrity and "redundancy" that was designed into WTC7....

....so, even though, by NIST's own admission, no high rise, steel framed building had ever collapsed due to fire, and WTC7 was not hit by an jet airliner, but collapsed anyway, NIST was not concerned enough about the WTC7 total collapse, neatly into it's own footprint, to commit to a timely and thorough investigation of how the total structure failure of that building happened.

...and, even though the collapse of WTC7 was unprecedented, the evidence of news reporting of CNN's Aaron Brown and BBC's Jane Standley, recently discovered....is that both reporters announced that WTC7 was expected to collapse, and they announced that it had collapsed, before it did....and a BBC editor tells us that the BBC "lost" the video tape of Jane Standley's relevant, 9/11 reporting.....

Quote:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...itroom.01.html
THE SITUATION ROOM

Americans Mark Five Year Anniversary of 9/11; New Public Opinion Poll on President Bush; Interview with Longtime Bush Adviser Karen Hughes; Rocket Fire Hits Afghanistan During 9/11 Commemoration

Aired September 11, 2006 - 16:00 ET

.....BLITZER: Abbi, thank you very much. And it's vows like these from Ayman al-Zawahiri that officials fear are inciting much of the recent violence in Iraq. Unfortunately today, the attacks continued: 13 Iraqis are dead after another suicide bomber strapped on a vest of explosives, boarded a bus in Baghdad and set off a blast. Officials say those killed were all Iraqi army recruits.

Meanwhile, American troops in Iraq mark the 9/11 anniversary. Among the observers at the Baghdad event, were the U.S. ambassador to Iraq, Zalmay Khalilzad. And just about this time five years ago, building No. 7 on the World Trade Center complex was reported on fire.

Let's take a look at Pipeline on CNN.com which is carrying CNN's coverage on 9/11, 2001 in real time.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: .. you, to be honest, can see these pictures a little bit more clearly than I, but Building Number Seven, one of the buildings in this very large complex of buildings that is the Trade Center, there were, and that is the right way to put it, there were the two towers, but then there are a number of support buildings around it, retail spaces, restaurants, office space, garages. The trains come in from New Jersey bringing commuters, taking commuters back, come into the complex that is the World Trade Center and now we are told that there is a fire there and that building may collapse as well, as can you see. We can see, as we look now back downtown, we can see the billowing smoke......
video and more information about identical, "pre WTC-7 collapse" news reporting by BBC is available here: http://www.archive.org/details/bbc200109111654-1736

BBC editor explains...on BBC website:
Quote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditor...onspiracy.html
Part of the conspiracy?

* Richard Porter
* 27 Feb 07, 05:12 PM


.......3. Our reporter Jane Standley was in New York on the day of the attacks, and like everyone who was there, has the events seared on her mind. I've spoken to her today and unsurprisingly, she doesn't remember minute-by-minute what she said or did - like everybody else that day she was trying to make sense of what she was seeing; what she was being told; and what was being told to her by colleagues in London who were monitoring feeds and wires services.

4. We no longer have the original tapes of our 9/11 coverage (for reasons of cock-up, not conspiracy). So if someone has got a recording of our output, I'd love to get hold of it. We do have the tapes for our sister channel News 24, but they don't help clear up the issue one way or another.

5. If we reported the building had collapsed before it had done so, it would have been an error - no more than that. As one of the comments on You Tube says today "so the guy in the studio didn't quite know what was going on? Woah, that totally proves conspiracy... "

Richard Porter is head of news, BBC World
Read the 227 comments, on the page linked above, below Richard Porter's explanation....

Does anyone else reading this, think that NIST has seemed less than seriously committed to a timely investigation of the unprecedented collapse of WTC7?

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