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Old 03-16-2007, 07:58 AM   #136 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Jennifer
I do not think you have addressed the existence of a god or gods, however. You seem to be working under the assumption that if god exists, god must be as religion describes it. I don't think that is the case. If god exists, it is possible that god just set things in motion and then stepped back to observe.
An interesting idea, but not an idea based in evidence. No evidence exists at all to suggest the existence of a supernatural intelligent creator. Anyone can guess as to the nature of the dawn of existence, but without proof it's just a guess. Without evidence or proof, it's really just a flight of fancy. It's as theoretically possible that god created the universe as it is that a super-intelligent race of corn cobs created the universe, and therein lies the ultimate truth about god: there is no ultimate truth about god.
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Science allows us to comprehend the rules of the universe, but not where they came from. It is theoretically possible that god built the universe and made it work according to the physical laws that we can study. That seems like it would be a lot easier than having to consciously think about every little thing that happens -- just program in some patterns of behavior and let the program run. I don't think science necessarily negates faith. I know several scientists who are extremely religious and view science as the tool to understand the universe the way god built it. I think that the real scientific method is to take something you believe could be true, make predictions based off of it, and then see if those predictions come true. If a religious person believes in god, prays to god to get through something, and then gets through it then they've used the scientific method to support the hypothesis that faith can help people through tough times. I'm agnostic myself because I don't believe in god exactly, but I do think it's possible that god exists. In response to an earlier point in this thread, I'm the same way about mythological or superstitious things. I don't really think vampires exist, for example, but I wouldn't be too surprised if I met one someday. I'd just be like, "Oh, so they *are* real..." (and then I'd probably die )
But if you undoubtedly believed in vampires, without any proof beyond myth, then you'd be considered to have a disconnect with reality. Some people who've read Ann Rice one too many times actually do believe in vampires and some even consider themselves vampires. That's delusional. I'd say it's equally delusional to think that an immortal demigod that lived 2000 years ago lives in your heart.

Sure god might exist, but so far as reason goes, god does not.
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