Host,
The attitude you and RB give is that we are doomed and we need radical changes.
It ain't happening unless you want civil war and a nation that may truly not allow freedoms.
Let me ask you this, what is your solution?
You 2 tell us how bad things are, how gloom and doom things are, how there is no hope..... but where are YOUR solutions???????
Where are your plans to change things?
All I have been saying is you open up both sides look at what the majority of the people want, sit the politicians down and find answers. If your senator or Representative doesn't want to find answers then elect new ones.
Debate for positive changes and demand positive changes.... ringing the bell and telling everyone how bad things are does NOTHING, offers NOTHING and takes away any hope that still exists.
In the end you get more people apathetic with politics that way and you create that which you say and speak out against.
So where are your answers??????? Not the problems, everyone knows what the problems are, how would Host and RB solve them and solve them to a degree that the majority will be happy with???????
Oh I forgot the 2 of you do have positive responses:
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Originally Posted by roachboy
and there is no debate. there is no discussion. there are no adjustments. there are no options. there IS avoidance. and this primarily because the spectrum of political positions that the americans confuse with a viable range of alternatives simply doesnt allow for this kind of issue to be addressed coherently.
so i dunno.
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Originally Posted by host
I'm angry pan.....angry for radical change.....and fearing that it's already too late...hence the impatience, and the less than eager embrace of a "why can't we all just get along" movement....that stays in it's "to the right" sphere.
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Host, turn your anger into something positive, not negative. Work for true change not "radical change" you dream of.... it won't happen.
Radical changes happen in steps and take time.... or if forced happen but end with negative results: Castro, Chavez, Vietnam, China, the old USSR, need I go on?
You have legit points but Host, you will never get a majority to agree to this radical change you are so wanting of.... what you will end up getting is people who want power and they will be far worse than what we have.
I say change the system from within and work in a way that the majority can agree with, have hope in and take part in because they feel positively about it.