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Old 03-12-2007, 08:59 AM   #51 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by roachboy
for me, these are the horse latitudes politically.
the bush administration is still in power.

the ideological climate has shifted out from under the administration, but it is still in power.

the fiasco of the iraq war is now self-evident--from its inception through to the present (the admin is requesting another 8000 troops---according to the guardian, yet another request is coming in may---there is no discrete endpoint for this "surge"--so it appears that the "surge" is best spelled ESCALATION in the grand vietnam stylee--this despite the story floating about this morning that the us is now planning to withdraw entirely if the "surge" doesnt work....)
but the administration is still in power.

i recently watched the spike lee documentary about katrina and nola---shocking stuff--unbelievable non-action from this administration, needlessly compounding already overwhelming suffering---but they are still in power.

the abuse of the judiciary--from guantanomo to the purging of district attorneys through the "expansive" interpretation informational gathering prerogatives accorded the fbi under the patriot act---all obvious. but the administration is still in power.

the list of incoherences could go on and on.
what is there to say?
i dont find this to be a climate that makes how i think about politics in the states to be more open than it had been....i dont find this a climate that provides much change in fundamental problems...i dont particularly enjoy the sense of writing the same thing over and over...so i have found myself fading out a bit.
You say Bush did this has done that..... (and I may agree), but how do we better the country? He only has less than 21 months in office before the next President Elect is sworn in. So we need a plan to better the country and repair it. So how will you do it?

Now you have something to work with, now you go in show what you got other than Bush is evil and the Right has to show what they have, other than their mantra, "the Left want to weaken America, tax and spend..." etc.

See both sides give fear, hate and rely on those. Neither side shows any answers. It's like for the past 20 some odd years our country has chosen to be REACTIONARY instead of trailblazing, stepping on some toes (which has to happen to move forward) and working to make this country great again.

I want new leaders that give new ideas. Leaders that listen to BOTH sides, takes the best from BOTH sides and looks at past mistakes not accusingly but to learn from.

Growing up with Liberal beliefs I was taught and believed back then to respect and listen to others. Then, I got into the politics of hate because that is where the road led and it was very easy. However, I looked at my son, the kids I go to college with, my sisters kids and realized that in hate politics I leave nothing better for them. So I worked to change and am changing more and more. It's work to not fall into the easy hate and blame politics, sometimes I still do, it's natural at times because there are still sensitive areas.

Hopefully, as shown above the think tank can work. It's a start. A start we need to make, hopefully it grows into something extremely productive. But there are those that will bear false messages of unity and working together and they will hurt the advancements. But if we hold politicians to a greater level of ethics than they have now, and they hold themselves to those ethics... those that would bear the false messages won't last long enough to do any serious damage.

We can blame, point fingers and hate or we can move forward, forgive and find lessons from our mistakes.

Plain and simple, which do you choose? Doesn't mean we give carte blanche.. we still hold politicians to a better and higher level than now.... but we don't blame a whole political party, we work together to get the garbage out and the rest will fall into place.

Show the masses a better, more positive message and way to advance and you will win. Elections then will not be "the better of 2 evils" but who has better ideas and a more comprehensive, inclusive plan to move us forward.

We can keep looking back, but doing so slows us down and gets us nowhere if all we do when we look back is point fingers and offer up nothing but hate and BS because we just want our side elected.
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