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dc_dux · 03-11-2007, 08:43 AM

The fact that the investigation was initiated by the CIA and expanded by the Dept of Justice would be a pretty strong indication that it was not politically motivated, but motivated out of a concern for security.

And the fact that Wilson was a 20+ year career diplomat, under both Bush 41 and Clinton, having served in both Iraq (during the first Gulf war, which he supported) and more recently in Africa, would seem to indicate he had a reasonable level of expertise on both Iraq capabilities and the availability of nuclear materials in Niger.

Again the political motivation was the retribution by the White House against someone who presented reliable information that challenged the White House "war speak." The highest officials in the White House using classified information to make Wilson "look like a flunky" and then a top subordinate lied about it to cover it up....what could be more political than that?

But we've been over this again and again and some will continue to challenge what they dont want to accept...so whats the point of going another round?

This gets to the heart of the issue in host's most recent thread. There is no conspiracy here to mock or "gang rape" (a crude analogy IMO) the opinions of the smaller number Bush supporters who believe the investigation and trial was politically motivated. But for a discussion and debate to have any value, opinions should be supported.

If you think it was politically motivated, offer something (anything!) to back it up. What was the poitical motivation of the CIA to initiate the investigation? What was the political motivation of Ashcroft (the AG at the time) to expand the investigation and appoint Fitzgerald? What was Fitzgerald's political motivation (as a prosecutor who had investigated both Dem and Repub officials in IL)? Why was Wilson's report politically motivated rather than an objective finding of facts?

Anything! If not, dont bitch about being criticized. It is not a personal attack....it is a plea for a more substantial discussion.

03-11-2007, 08:43 AM	#33 (permalink)
dc_dux Location: Washington DC	The fact that the investigation was initiated by the CIA and expanded by the Dept of Justice would be a pretty strong indication that it was not politically motivated, but motivated out of a concern for security. And the fact that Wilson was a 20+ year career diplomat, under both Bush 41 and Clinton, having served in both Iraq (during the first Gulf war, which he supported) and more recently in Africa, would seem to indicate he had a reasonable level of expertise on both Iraq capabilities and the availability of nuclear materials in Niger. Again the political motivation was the retribution by the White House against someone who presented reliable information that challenged the White House "war speak." The highest officials in the White House using classified information to make Wilson "look like a flunky" and then a top subordinate lied about it to cover it up....what could be more political than that? But we've been over this again and again and some will continue to challenge what they dont want to accept...so whats the point of going another round? This gets to the heart of the issue in host's most recent thread. There is no conspiracy here to mock or "gang rape" (a crude analogy IMO) the opinions of the smaller number Bush supporters who believe the investigation and trial was politically motivated. But for a discussion and debate to have any value, opinions should be supported. If you think it was politically motivated, offer something (anything!) to back it up. What was the poitical motivation of the CIA to initiate the investigation? What was the political motivation of Ashcroft (the AG at the time) to expand the investigation and appoint Fitzgerald? What was Fitzgerald's political motivation (as a prosecutor who had investigated both Dem and Repub officials in IL)? Why was Wilson's report politically motivated rather than an objective finding of facts? Anything! If not, dont bitch about being criticized. It is not a personal attack....it is a plea for a more substantial discussion. __________________ "The perfect is the enemy of the good." ~ Voltaire Last edited by dc_dux; 03-11-2007 at 09:23 AM..