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Originally Posted by jorgelito
Militant atheist? I thought you were a pacifist. Interesting....
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I've jokingly been referred to that way. I'm still a pacifist.
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Originally Posted by DaveMatrix
Destructive??? In what way??? I've found that believe in a higher being, has brought meaning and structure to my life that was never there before. My father was an alcoholic, who claimed to be a Methodist. After going to church one Sunday, at about age 8, I decided to pick up a Bible to try to read understand what all the talk was actually about. My father had been drinking, saw me reading, and soon laughed out loud and proclaimed that was for weaklings. I didn't pick up the Bible again for 14 years. Strange what an impact your childhood has on you. It was his idea for me to join the army, said it would make a 'man' outta me. When I told him I had joined and had signed up as a combat medic, because I wanted to help people, you could actually see the blood drain away from his face. I suppose helping people was also for weaklings. I think thats all I'll 'share' for now. Maybe that'll give you some insight into what makes me tick.
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I see it as being personally destructive that they only way someone can give their life meaning is to exchange fiction for reality. Again, I once was neck deep in it, but now I'm free to find meaning in reality, if I so choose.
I'm sorry your father treated you badly, but I'm not 100% sure what that has to do with this. Are you a believer because of your dad's very poor behavior? In spite of it? I'm not sure what to infer from the story.
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Originally Posted by Infinite_Loser
*Takes a deep breath*
The only thing wrong with the Flying Spaghetti Monster argument is that people like to adopt a "If-there's-no-scientific-evidence-of-it-then-it-must-not-exist" argument when, in actuality, their argument should be "If-there's-no-scientific-evidence-of-it-then-it-might-exist-outside-of-the-realm-of-science" (Seeing as how, you know, science is limited to the natural world, is based on, you know, induction and can only, you know, measure the known rather than the, you know, unknown).
But-- Hey!-- Science is what you make of it, right?
Edit: Does anyone realize how circular the Flying Spaghetti Monster argument is? You'll say prove him, I'll say disprove him and we'll ultimately end up back at square one.
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I'm amazed you don't get this. The idea is that you realize how circular the logic behind the existence of god is by creating a similar creature with circular logic to point it out.
What hasn't been proven by science yet is science fiction. Are you saying you worship science fiction?