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Old 03-09-2007, 09:32 PM   #26 (permalink)
KnifeMissile
 
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Originally Posted by Seaver
The problem with the video is they base their arguments on facts they know nothing about.
Just out of curiosity, what "facts" did "they know nothing about?"

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Show me where in the bible it said how old the world is. It's not in there, it was MUCH later on a theologist came up with the date. It's not in dogma in any religion out there, it's not supported by any church. The gravity is false claim? Show me one church who present that as dogma. This video is similar to making the argument connecting the people who create anti-military web pages (which count and cheer every US death) with atheism as a whole because a few of them are.
This is another example false association.

The video never made a generalist statement about all theists. It was a caricature (although, in many cases, it was merely an impersonation) of a fundamentalist christian. You are the one who is taking it as a statement on all christians. The only statement it makes is the one you take from it...

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It's unnesessarily condescending, that is the problem with it. Point out your issues why you don't believe in a God, but don't put out pompus videos like this and then tell us to lighten up isn't going to spark some magical debate. How many religious people have inspired a good debate with you by starting off every sentence calling you a monkey and say you're going to hell? None? Oh, maybe you should lighten up then.
According to your described standard of discourse, satire will never be a valid form of communication. I think what you call "condescension" is merely humour. It does everything you propose it should do but with the novel technique of doing so from the point of view of its opponent. Your example at the end of your paragraph, here, doesn't appear to be analogous to anything discussed in this thread, so I'm not sure what you were trying to say with it...

If you want a good piece of theistic satire, here's one for you:

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