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Old 03-09-2007, 01:36 PM   #25 (permalink)
Yakk
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Originally Posted by Seaver
You can point out all you want fringe elements and form your opinion about the faithful all you want. I'm not here to convert you, I'm not here to discuss faith.

I don't believe all of the Bible. I don't believe in Noah and the Ark, I don't believe God made Eve from Adam's Rib. I don't believe in most of Genesis. Now you will point out how if some can't be taken literally than none of it can. Unfortunately you miss the entire point.
Could you explain why you don't believe in Krishna and the Sanskrit texts, or Allah and the book of Mohammed? I asked you before, and I am curious. What standard do you use to pick a God?

Why don't you believe God made Eve from Adam's Rib?

Why don't you believe in Noah and the Ark?

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The Bible tells us there is a being greater than us,
All right. Why that particular God and not Allah, Krishna, Coyote, Mars, Odin or FSM?

Do you believe in any of the Commandments in the Bible? If so, which ones?

Do you believe in the life, death and ressurection of Jesus? If so, why?

Do you believe Jesus made water from wine? Do you believe Jesus brought Lazarus back from the dead? Do you believe that the person Jesus was a fabrication?

I don't know is a valid answer. I'm just curious.

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whom wishes us to be good to one another,
What standard do you use for "good" -- is it Bible based? It probably isn't solely based on the Bible, because I doubt you are in favour of stoning people to death for eating shrimp.

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and will right the wrongs of the world in the end.
Ah, belief in a just world. I feel that believing that "all goodness will be rewarded" debases goodness, and turns it into nothing more virtuous than a long-term bond purchase at a decent rate.

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That if we live right, love one another, and try to make the world better we will live happily ever after.
You mean "live, after we die, happily ever after", is that correct? Why Jesus/God and not Buddist Nirvanah?

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You see this as childish, maybe it is.
Is this an example of Pascal's wager -- one may as well believe X about the universe? Or something else.

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However I'd much rather believe in this than believe there is no point our existence other than some sort of evolutionary hick-up, and in the end all we'll be is a dead body.
One can mischaracterize one's opponent's position easily. As an example:

"The toy of a omnipotent diety in a matrix-universe built for the dieties amusement."

Merely an evolutionary hickup is like calling a diamond "merely soot, rearraged".

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So, would you accept any belief structure that would grant you something you can call meaning?
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