To blade02: If we aren't trying to be the good guys, then why bother fighting at all.
To Deltona: We don't need to kill more people in Iraq, we need to kill the right ones. Unfortunately we are fighting the war completely the wrong way, but it's not so much that our hands are tied as it is our culture not being able to adapt to the conditions. Anyway this a discussion for another thread.
To get us back on topic I will reiterate that the T-80 is a piece of crap. Yes, it looks cool jumping over berms, but the Russians love jumping thier tanks over stuff in demos. It distracts from the fact that they haven't made a serious fighting tank since the T-34.
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Fortunato became immured to the sound of the trowel after a while.
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