03-04-2007, 01:04 PM
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#11 (permalink)
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Banned
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
we're missing a third option, 'it's the government, stupid!'
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From my closed, "Reds" thread:
http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showpos...95&postcount=1
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.....Not only was Williams very upset and disgusted with the oppression against his people, but as with many, felt that the Vietnam war was a great wrongness. Williams didn't chew on his words, either. He knew what he thought and felt about the horror of Imperialist wars.
The american people cannot hide behind the excuse that they are not doing it, that they are not committing these crimes. <b>They are actually responsible for these crimes because these crimes are being committed in the name of the American people by a government that states it is a government of the people, for the people and by the people. [...]
When you have a community that is becoming degenerate, and is being overrun by degenerates, and degeneracy is becoming the order of the day, then no honest man can take an inactive position; no honest man can be neutral. and if honest men are neutral, than they are not honest.</b> then they become accessories after the fact and after the act, and to the act.
—Robert Franklin Williams, 1968
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Nobody takes power. They're given power by the rest of us -- because we're stupid, or afraid - or both. The Russians in 1917, the Germans in 1939... they handed over power to people they thought could settle scores -- get the trains running on time, restore their prestige. They did it because it was what they wanted. And then like children who have eaten too much candy after dinner, they denied it was their fault. It was "them." It's always "them."
-William Edgars, Babylon 5
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