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Originally Posted by Ustwo
The difference between liberalism and conservatism seems to be one rallies against human nature and tries to force us to become what they think humans should be, while one accepts it and works out the best solutions we can understanding that nature and accepting its short comings.
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Thank you for, if nothing else, at least illuminating EXACTLY what the entire liberal mind set is all about. I've struggled personally with thoughts of something similar but the nuts and bolts eluded me. You nailed it!!!!
I can't say I completely agree with this characterization of conservatism, at least in it's present incarnation in US politics.
Essentially I think that the stripes of both "ideologies" are for the most identical, and essentially boil down to staying in power, at what ever cost.
Classical liberalism or true libertarianism I think is concerned with understanding human nature and adapting appropriate solutions and present day liberalism is essentially (and has yet to chalk up a single success. This lack of success or even a single improvement is key) attempting to create a utopia based on how the population of a utopia "should" behave. Obviously and without a doubt dillusional in assuming that human nature can be utopic or even in the slightest way manufactured or steered in such a direction.
Anywho....Ustwo, I miss your insights, and wish you well in your quest for family happiness and whatever other goals you seek to accomplish.
-bear