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Mondak · 02-27-2007, 11:35 AM

With all you Baltarists out there, is there room for a hater in your midst?

This story could have been told without the Baltar vehicle. I think he did too much in recent history to be redeemable as a credible information source. His sins:

1. Sold out the 13 colonies for some ass. His actions led to the deaths of billions of people. The only thing is that no everyone knows this.

2. Pitched the people on moving to New Caprica despite his own understanding that it would be a disaster of a planet to move to. Why? He wanted to win the election. If you go back to the merits of Roslyn v. Baltar for president, her argument was not to settle a planet - it was that THIS was the wrong planet to choose. The Scientist presented information on why it was ideally suitable that was false. The climate and resources were inappropriate as a long term home for a people to proliferate on. People would not forget this.

3. He lived in a den of moral filth BEFORE the Cylons took over on New Caprica and supplied a million reasons why people would hate him on his own. Then he acted as an pawn of the Cylons rather than fighting back. The kind of kangaroo court that I see coming where the whole story won't come out but his version will be accepted as truth by a jury will be very frustrating.

I don't think the people would be so willing to jump back on the Baltar wagon. Why did the writers do it? Well they are not going to kill off this dirt bag, so they had to find a way for him to "plausibly" get back in. I don't think it is plausible at all.

In other news, the President and the Admiral would not turn that blind and eye to the problems of the refinery ship and the rest of the fleet just to do an about face a few hours later. Helo runs all over the place on his own agenda and Adama thanks him for keeping to his moral compass. The Chief who is WAY above board on being reliable, valuable and having good judgment gets forced into a no win situation, jail and has his wife's life threatened. This results in the very situation that would have really happened from the get go: Roslyn and Adama listen to him and trust his judgment. Retarded.

Am I complaining that I didn't see enough space battles and they did too much with character development? Nope (although space battles are shiny treats). Instead I say that they directly contradicted very detailed previous character development so that they could somehow get Baltar back in the game.

Yuk. . .

02-27-2007, 11:35 AM	#548 (permalink)
Mondak Industrialist Location: Southern California	With all you Baltarists out there, is there room for a hater in your midst? This story could have been told without the Baltar vehicle. I think he did too much in recent history to be redeemable as a credible information source. His sins: 1. Sold out the 13 colonies for some ass. His actions led to the deaths of billions of people. The only thing is that no everyone knows this. 2. Pitched the people on moving to New Caprica despite his own understanding that it would be a disaster of a planet to move to. Why? He wanted to win the election. If you go back to the merits of Roslyn v. Baltar for president, her argument was not to settle a planet - it was that THIS was the wrong planet to choose. The Scientist presented information on why it was ideally suitable that was false. The climate and resources were inappropriate as a long term home for a people to proliferate on. People would not forget this. 3. He lived in a den of moral filth BEFORE the Cylons took over on New Caprica and supplied a million reasons why people would hate him on his own. Then he acted as an pawn of the Cylons rather than fighting back. The kind of kangaroo court that I see coming where the whole story won't come out but his version will be accepted as truth by a jury will be very frustrating. I don't think the people would be so willing to jump back on the Baltar wagon. Why did the writers do it? Well they are not going to kill off this dirt bag, so they had to find a way for him to "plausibly" get back in. I don't think it is plausible at all. In other news, the President and the Admiral would not turn that blind and eye to the problems of the refinery ship and the rest of the fleet just to do an about face a few hours later. Helo runs all over the place on his own agenda and Adama thanks him for keeping to his moral compass. The Chief who is WAY above board on being reliable, valuable and having good judgment gets forced into a no win situation, jail and has his wife's life threatened. This results in the very situation that would have really happened from the get go: Roslyn and Adama listen to him and trust his judgment. Retarded. Am I complaining that I didn't see enough space battles and they did too much with character development? Nope (although space battles are shiny treats). Instead I say that they directly contradicted very detailed previous character development so that they could somehow get Baltar back in the game. Yuk. . . __________________ All truth passes through three stages: First it is ridiculed Second, it is violently opposed and Third, it is accepted as self-evident. ARTHUR SCHOPENHAUER (1788-1860)