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Originally Posted by willravel
The point was that the Capitol is to be protected in the instance of attack, no matter what. The official policy is to have planes in the air around DC in the event of an attack. Flight 77's transponder switched off over a half hour before the F-16s took off. I have to wonder why they would simply ignore protocol.
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it was not known to be an attack. it was a hijacking, not an attack, not until they started crashing into buildings, and then it takes people to put 2 and 2 together and figure out that its an organized attack, not a hijacking gone wrong.
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Originally Posted by willravel
Ah, not the point. The fighters were headed towards NYC. The order to intercept would not have been relevant until the jets were a few miles out. They should have reached the city with much time to spare, and with simple radar they could have intercepted the plane(s) before they were even over a populated area. They dragged their feet en route to NYC, and that is the problem.
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actually no, they were heading east over the pacific, as per standard operational orders. until the target is declared, they fly over the pacific to not clog the airways over the US. there was 5 minutes between the order to intercept and the plane impacting, the jets headed at there best speed back to new york but did not make it in time.
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Originally Posted by willravel
I enjoy how you say "wrong", then your next 7 words agree with me. It warms my cockles. Both planes en route to NYC were headed towards Manhattan before their transponders were shut off. Again, you, I, or a 7th grader can calculate location by factoring in speed and trajectory. It's basic geometry. Also, Flight 77 didn't double back before but after the transponder shut off. It was all in the minute of 8:56 AM EST.
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no they don't agree with you, you said all 4, i said 2, 2 does not equal 4, there for you were wrong. but i am glad to hear your cockles are warm. and again, you are over simplifying things, tracking a plane based off of one vector, and its a bad idea to try. just the atmospheric effects will make that vector inaccurate after a few minutes, but worse yet, if the plane changed direction, by guessing at its supposed location could have, and would have in 2 instances, lead the fighters way off course. it is silly to assume that a hijacked plane will stay on course. and since there was no perceived danger it was best to wait until all the facts were known.
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Originally Posted by willravel
"Fly to New York City" isn't clear enough, I guess. What order would you have given in order to communicate a need form them to fly to New York City?
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if i was in their position at the time, I'd go with, hold out of the way at low speed's until we find them, then intercept them and follow them until we know more about what they want.