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Originally Posted by willravel
Ah, but there was 51 minutes between the impact of Flight 11 into the North Tower and the supposed impact of Flight 77 into the Pentagon. 51 minutes isn't enough?
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No its not enough. As you know flight 77 doubled back and with out its transponder active it would be extremely hard to track. Meanwhile the planes launched were mistakenly sent to intercept flight 11, not flight 77, 11 already had crashed. At 9:32, Dulles picked up an inbound plane (flight 77) and when they realized it was heading towards Washington, the fighters were ordered to return to DC at top speed “I don’t care how many windows you break” the commander said giving authorization to break the sound barrier. 5 minutes later, flight 77 impacted the pentagon; however the jets were 150 mile east.
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Originally Posted by willravel
Also, you said that they could only go 700 mph, yes? Well that's still enough time to get there with time to spare.
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At the time, the fighters were several hundred miles away, and when they were given the order to intercept, they had 5 minutes before impact.
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Originally Posted by willravel
In all 4 cases, the transponders were shut off after the planes were heading in the directions of their targets. It's not hard at all to figure out speed and trejectory in order to located the planes. If I can do it, and you can do it, and a 7th grader can do it, why couldn't NORAD, the FAA, the Air Force, or anyone else? Even with them not knowing for sure, they had good indicators.
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Wrong, in 2 cases they were on target, flight 93 is unknown, and flight 77 double backed after the transponder was disabled. It is hard to determine speed, trajectory of the planes. No I can’t do it, you can’t do it, and no way can a 7th grader do it.
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Originally Posted by willravel
They F-15s were ordered to NYC and the F-16s were ordered to DC. They knew where they were going, they just dragged their feet for some reason. The reason they dragged their feet is unknown.
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They dragged there feet because they were not sure where they were. They followed procedures.
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Originally Posted by Ch'i
So NORAD, the DOD and FAA are completely incompetent. Gotcha.
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bingo. singularly, they were fine, together, everything broke down during 9/11, communication was lacking and could not respond to a fast developing threat.