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Originally Posted by Dilbert1234567
Hind site is 20/20. At the time it was nothing big until they started impacting buildings. You seem to think NORAD and all these other organizations are some super computer, capable of operating quickly and efficiently, they are not, and they are bloated bureaucracies. We are talking about making split second decisions with dire consequences; we are talking about shooting down a commercial jet because it was hijacked, if they had shot all the planes down, you'd be complaining that there was no probable cause to shoot them down.
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Ah, but there was 51 minutes between the impact of Flight 11 into the North Tower and the supposed impact of Flight 77 into the Pentagon. 51 minutes isn't enough?
Also, you said that they could only go 700 mph, yes? Well that's still enough time to get there with time to spare.
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Originally Posted by Dilbert1234567
The transponders were shut off, making it impossible to distinguish from the other 4500 planes except by going though them one by one, there was no easy way to do it. And they only had 9 minutes to do it. The person tracing flight 11 that morning when the transponder was shut off was tracking 15 planes as well, to get a view of the radar, he had to go up a flight of stairs. The displays were on different floors, ok, lets think about this, we have 2 screens, one with 14 dots, one with 15, they are on different floors, find the missing dot, by the way, they are all moving, ready, go. It can’t be done, not in 9 minutes.
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In all 4 cases, the transponders were shut off after the planes were heading in the directions of their targets. It's not hard at all to figure out speed and trejectory in order to located the planes. If I can do it, and you can do it, and a 7th grader can do it, why couldn't NORAD, the FAA, the Air Force, or anyone else? Even with them not knowing for sure, they had good indicators.
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Originally Posted by Dilbert1234567
It was 9 minutes, but even with 14 minutes, it is impossible to pick one blip out of 4500, it just can't be done.
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They F-15s were ordered to NYC and the F-16s were ordered to DC. They knew where they were going, they just dragged their feet for some reason. The reason they dragged their feet is unknown.
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Originally Posted by Dilbert1234567
Even if they had drills, they still did not think it could happen, and once it was known to be happening, it was too late. When normal criminals take hostages, the cops don’t just bust in shooting, they wait it out until they know the hostages are going to be killed, the cops would rather wait it out until the time is right it minimize civilian casualties rather then risk an assault. The same is true here.
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That's a rather big assumption. When you run drills, you prepare for the real life situation. This was the real life situation. It was not an alien situation to anyone, NORAD, the FAA, the Air Force, the Pentagon, etc.