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Old 02-24-2007, 11:22 AM   #824 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Dilbert1234567
First, before 9/11 jets were not allowed super sonic speeds to intercept. Top speed ~700 mph, not 1500.
"We're facing the largest attack on American soil since Pearl Harbor, but don't go too fast to stop it". An exception to that rule (which was only sometimes observed) is as easy as a few words from NORAD.
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Going off course is not carefully monitored, it is only carefully monitored over the coast line and out at sea, to track smugglers. Between the 1989 and 9/11 all except 1 intercept was off the cost of the US, they all had there transponders on and were easily identified by radar because of the low amount of traffic in the area, most of these planes were drug smugglers, or suspected drug smugglers. Finally before 9/11 planes were not left armed on the runway, there was no needed, any plane that was sent to intercept had to be loaded first. There was ample time to arm them before any threat, ie some foreign power, could make it.
Irrelevant. These planes had transponders, then the transponders shut off. Also, they were aware that the planes were hijacked.
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Originally Posted by Dilbert1234567
At 8:24, flight 11 said some suspicious stuff, the flight controller contacted his supervisor, at 8:37 the supervisor contacted norad. 2 F-15’s were sent to armed and prepped for flight, but did not have a location to go to. At 8:46, the plane hit the WTC.
They didn't have a location to go? They knew the approximate heading because the flight controller gave it to his or her supervisor who gave it to NORAD.
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Originally Posted by Dilbert1234567
They had 9 minutes to sort through 4500 blips, and find the 1 that did not have its transponder on. There was no computer system in place to automate it; it had to be done manually. 9 minutes to sort through 4500 objects. Give me a break it can’t be done.
Wrong. They had 14 minutes to go from Otis to NYC. That would have been easy, as the flight controller said it was headed towards NYC.
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But my question is relevant, it is extremely relevant. The was no perceived rush to intercept the planes, they were commercial flights, unarmed, and up until that point, no one had ever used a civilian plane as a weapon, all the military jets had to do was to fallow them and try to make contact. In the past, all intercepts did was follow the plane until it landed, an attempt to make contact if contact was lost.
You're already forgetting that NORAD had run drills about planes being used as weapons so recently before 9/11? Comon. The Pentagon knew about it, NORAD knew about it, the Air Force knew about it. The FAA even knew about it.
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