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Originally Posted by shakran
Now we switch to the "fake attack on the tactic" tactic. Let's falsely classify my response as an emotional rant rather than a valid retort. Unfortunately for you the majority of people who post here are far too smart to fall for these parlor tricks.
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We have gone off topic. I would be happy to disuss any of the issues in a new thread or one of the existing threads already covering the topic.
Just one final point from me here on "does the means justify the ends" because it is fundemental to our differences. I will do whatever it takes, regardless of the means, to protect my family, property, and liberty. I draw the line at cheating, lieing, stealing, etc, for personal gain. However, I never assume others wont.
I had an experience when I was a child, I overheard my mother talking to a friend who was in an abusive relationship. At one point my mother (a person of impecable character) asked her friend "what are you willing to do to protect your children and get out of the situation"? My mother's friend was crying and said she did not know. then my mother angrily said - "if you are not willing to lie cheat, steal and fight for you children to protect your children, you don't deserve to be a mother". Those words resonate in my mind every day. My mothers friend did get out of the relationship. So when I think of national defense issues - I think in terms of doing what need to be done. When I think of economic issues - I think in terms of each individual needing to take control of their situation. This is the conservative view point I have. If it is wrong, so be it. It is the view I will take to my grave.