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Old 02-22-2007, 11:00 AM   #16 (permalink)
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nice post, politicophile. it does more or less what i would like to think my husky-interrupted one would have.

a couple of questions:

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Even so, I don't understand why good actions would cease to be good actions simply because we no longer recognized them as such, unless...
this would be a space for argumentation--politics in a sense. for example, marx's critique of capitalist alienation is an ethical critique that emerged from and looped back into a broader political project. it seems to me that any political project rests on ethical claims, at one level or another. whether they present them as amenable to debate or as functions of some "natural law" is a matter of the dispositions particular to the folk who generate the project. personally, i view ethical claims as arguments.

2 and 3 seem to outline the story of the fall.

with the last sentence of the summary, we are kind of back where we started from tho: if i understand what asaris was arguing, the problem is whether there is a "good in itself"---i dont see how it could be argued that there is something like that--but asaris presented it as leaning on a type of ontological claim that does not involve a doctrine of forms--maybe i am thinking about all this too much through a language-base framework--but i dont see it.
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