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ShaniFaye · 02-21-2007, 05:30 PM

Not to take away from the fascinating discussions going on...and Im sure no will will notice my interruption lol, but I have now watched both parts of this documentary and I wanted to make just two comments...

There is actually something (there were a few, but this is the biggest IMO) that I agree with (keeping in mind, I believe there is a God, and I believe in him)

The point about the children is right...my parents raised me the same way I raise my daughter....I was provided with an education that taught me not just about christianity, but other relegions and atheism as well and was always told to make my own choices about what I believed, or didnt believe. I do this with Amanda, we study and discuss all aspects of theism and atheism and even at 13 she has thanked me for that because she is seeing already that some parents will not tolerate a belief system different from their own. If she were to decide there was no God, I would not love her any more or any less than if makes she faith decision that He does exist. When it comes down to it, one group is right and when I die I will find out which one, and if its my group thats right...then the non believers will have to deal with God then and its none of my business, because I love them just the same.

Now this 2nd point is one I categorically disagree with, and I see it as him making a broad generalized statement about ALL believers. He said that only atheists "lived their life to the fullest". Not true, I along with many believers that I know tend to try to "live as if its our last day" Just because we believe in a "great beyond" doesnt mean we know what that great beyond entails, and we live our life on earth knowing "we dont know". Hell is defined as a seperation from God; an exclusion from his presence, and thats something I dont want. I choose to think when we die (and please I dont want to start a debate in what "heaven" is....Im simply stating my belief in rebuttal to him saying I'm "just enduring my life here") we are reunited with our loved ones and all the unanswered questions are answered and I will be able to look upon the face of god (since according to the bible, I cant do it and live to tell about it). Thats great and I look forward to it, BUT I want to savor and enjoy every moment and every gift God has given us here on earth. I want to marvel at nature, and revel in my husband and all the joy he gives me. I dont see that as "enduring life on earth just to get to the hearafter"

/you may now go back to the reguarly scheduled debates

02-21-2007, 05:30 PM	#135 (permalink)
ShaniFaye Submit to me, you know you want to Location: Lilburn, Ga	Not to take away from the fascinating discussions going on...and Im sure no will will notice my interruption lol, but I have now watched both parts of this documentary and I wanted to make just two comments... There is actually something (there were a few, but this is the biggest IMO) that I agree with (keeping in mind, I believe there is a God, and I believe in him) The point about the children is right...my parents raised me the same way I raise my daughter....I was provided with an education that taught me not just about christianity, but other relegions and atheism as well and was always told to make my own choices about what I believed, or didnt believe. I do this with Amanda, we study and discuss all aspects of theism and atheism and even at 13 she has thanked me for that because she is seeing already that some parents will not tolerate a belief system different from their own. If she were to decide there was no God, I would not love her any more or any less than if makes she faith decision that He does exist. When it comes down to it, one group is right and when I die I will find out which one, and if its my group thats right...then the non believers will have to deal with God then and its none of my business, because I love them just the same. Now this 2nd point is one I categorically disagree with, and I see it as him making a broad generalized statement about ALL believers. He said that only atheists "lived their life to the fullest". Not true, I along with many believers that I know tend to try to "live as if its our last day" Just because we believe in a "great beyond" doesnt mean we know what that great beyond entails, and we live our life on earth knowing "we dont know". Hell is defined as a seperation from God; an exclusion from his presence, and thats something I dont want. I choose to think when we die (and please I dont want to start a debate in what "heaven" is....Im simply stating my belief in rebuttal to him saying I'm "just enduring my life here") we are reunited with our loved ones and all the unanswered questions are answered and I will be able to look upon the face of god (since according to the bible, I cant do it and live to tell about it). Thats great and I look forward to it, BUT I want to savor and enjoy every moment and every gift God has given us here on earth. I want to marvel at nature, and revel in my husband and all the joy he gives me. I dont see that as "enduring life on earth just to get to the hearafter" /you may now go back to the reguarly scheduled debates __________________ *I want the diabetic plan that comes with rollover carbs. I dont like the unused one expiring at midnite!!* Last edited by ShaniFaye; 02-21-2007 at 05:33 PM..