Well, if I'm going to go out, I might as well go out with a bang, rather than a whimper. First of all, I take serious issue with you referring to my actions as trolling. Offensive. Now. Point by point, I guess, is the way these things are done.
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To suggest that the need no longer exists, is nothing but an unsupported assumption on your part. You can claim that the second amendment was only to protect "militia-men" but that would only be an interpretation on your part, one which has been argued for much longer than this board has been around. I'd be interested in hearing any sort of logic that supports your claim that the right to bear arms is no longer necessary. Crime and corruption certainly haven't been stamped out.
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It's not a question of interpretation. "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." That's the text.
As for crime and corruption, that's why we have POLICE. No need to take the law into your own hands.
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Thank you for providing absolutely no evidence or logic to back up your ridiculous claims other than "the masses are quite often wrong" which in itself is flawed but quite telling. If you were serious about discussing this, there is plenty of evidence that I could reference, but it appears that you are just trolling again.
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I didn't realize the onus was on me to prove the masses are quite often wrong. If you actually want evidence I'm sure I could dredge it up, but you're kidding, right? How about segregation? Slavery? That the Earth was flat, or revolved around the Sun? On and on and on. I consider this subject closed.
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It's not paranoia, it's called learning from history. Revoking the right for law-abiding citizens to bear arms is a stepping stone to oppressing a nation and a very important one. To think otherwise suggests that you are living in a different world than the rest of us are.
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Yeah, Canada, England, they're really oppressed nations.
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"A few guns" are not stopping the government from revoking our second amendment rights, logic and common sense are. If a selective ban of so-called "assault rifles" was reacted to in such a way as to give Republicans control of Congress, imagine the reaction to an all-out ban of the posession of firearms by law-abiding citizens would be.
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Your first point is no point at all. I didn't mean "oppress" to be translated as "take our precious, precious guns away" but rather take away our more important rights. And your logic that the ban was what led to a Republican Congress is faulty at best.