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Old 02-17-2007, 12:28 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by ShaniFaye
The bible was written by man, it was written by people that picked and chose what they wanted the masses to "hear" to back up the religion they were setting up at the time (hence the more controversial books being left out of the new testament)
My apologies if I misunderstood, but this statement seemed to me like acknowledging that not every word in the bible is necessarily to be followed. If you do believe the biblical moral teachings are all to be followed, such as women remaining subservient to men as Paul dictates, then I stand corrected. I just got the impression that, with acknowledging man chose what to include and not include in the bible, you were also acknowledging that not everything in the bible is necessarily "god's word."

Regarding wouldn't vs couldn't explain, again, sorry for the misunderstanding. In that case though, I have to ask, why believe something that you admittedly can't provide any basis for, when there are things to believe which have falsifiable or testable predictions, i.e. proof?

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Originally Posted by asaris
I'm not a creationist, but was one as a child, and so know the arguments a bit. One of the objections is that, if the earth is only 6000 years old, God must have created the earth with the appearance of age to trick us/test our faith/whatever. The story I always heard was that, just as when God created Adam and Eve, he created adult humans, so when He created the earth, he created an adult earth.
Can't say I think that view has any basis in reality, but I have to at least respect the fact it is an explanation which avoids a trickster god. Then again, if God is omnipotent, he knows exactly what effect creating an "adult" earth will have on people. Perhaps I was hasty in characterizing that God as not being a trickster. If he knows his creation will unnecessarily mislead people, he is indeed choosing to trick them by still creating it in that manner.

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Originally Posted by ShaniFaye
well, there are people that dont think like you, its as simple as that. I dont have to know why the sky is blue for it to look blue to me, I dont have to know why grass is green to know that it is.... Just like there are people in the world that have to know the why's there are people that dont. I happen to think its a waste of time to know the "why" of everything so that makes us even
Sorry, but this is a false comparison. You can see that the sky is blue and the grass is green. As far as I know, I'm pretty sure you didn't see God create Adam and Eve, or the Earth less than X billion years ago. A more proper comparison is that you don't need to know that chlorophyll is involved in making grass green to know that it is green. That much is true. It also makes the comparison irrelevant to the discussion. This is not about why the earth is old, it's just about the fact that it is and that there is a mountain of evidence that it is.
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