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Old 02-15-2007, 03:30 PM   #14 (permalink)
shakran
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Originally Posted by desal75
Really? Careful where you tread here...


Or in other words, back it up with concrete examples. You don't want people generalizing about your livelyhood. Don't do it to others.
In the first place, I never said anything close to painting all US auto industry workers as "brain dead." In fact, I didn't say anything negative about the auto industry workers at all.

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But others are not factual. You can get a Chevrolet Aveo that gets just as good gas mileage as a Honda Fit
In the first place, The Fit gets 33 city, 38 highway. The Aveo gets 26 city, 35 highway (source, EPA and Motorweek). Now I'm a journalist which means I suck at math, but last I checked 38 was more than 35.

And real world reports from Aveo owners have them getting closer to 16-20mpg.


Oh, and in the second place, the Aveo is not a Chevy, it's a rebadged Daewoo, so it's not even an american car. My point stands.

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and you can get a Silverado that gets better mileage than a Tacoma.
You're right. The 4.0L V6 Tacoma with the manual gets 16 city / 21 highway. If you choose the 4.3L V6 Silverado with the manual you get 16 city / 22 highway.

But you can also get the I4 Tacoma manual and get 20 city / 27 mpg. Or if you still want a v6, get the automatic Tacoma v6 and get 18 city / 22 highway. (source for all this EPA mileage ratings)

So yes, if you choose the most fuel efficient silverado you'll get 1mpg better on the highway than the least fuel efficient Tacoma.

I can do unfair comparisons too. The V8 6L Silverado gets 14 city / 19 highway, AND you have to buy premium gas for it.

Or the flex fuel V8 5.3L gets 12 city / 16 highway when run on this supposedly hyper-efficient wonderfuel that is E85.

Oh and by the way you can get an extended cab 5.7L V8 Tundra with 381HP that gets 16 city / 20 highway. You can get the same mileage from the Silverado, if you choose the 4.8L V8 with only 295HP.




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Also, in the '90's most automakers went head long into full size, body-on-frame SUV's because of the huge profit margins they generated. Between Toyota and Lexus there are 4 different ones for sale.
What's your point?

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In addition, Chrysler wasn't the only company platform sharing with the Caravan and Town and Country. A VW Beetle and Rabbit as well as the Audi A3 and TT are all the same car underneath.
that's nice. But the TT and the A3 are very different looking and driving cars. As are the Beetle and the Rabbit. The Caravan and the Town and Country look the same, drive the same, ARE the same. The only difference is that the trim is more upscale on the T&C. Absolute clones are a very different story from cars that happen to share some of the same underpinnings.

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