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analog · 02-12-2007, 07:52 PM

I'd bet good money that this video is a PETA product. The one-sidedness and forced emotional pandering is right on par with their usual work. Mothers and children cry out while separated? Writhe in agony? What people don't realize is that these are lame ploys.

The quickest way to kill any animal, other than straight decapitation, is slicing it's throat open. It's actually a pretty quick death if done deep (correctly) enough. The main arteries that feed the brain are cut, and loss of consciousness can come within seconds of completely interrupted blood flow to the brain. Realize that all the "writhing" you see is the body's electrical activity and muscle contractions, having nothing to do with being conscious, let alone alive. For example, the human heart can beat outside of the body, attached to nothing at all, for up to 20 minutes. That does not mean anything is alive. It simply means that there are electrical impulses still firing within the tissue. Mammals can be dead for some time before all electrical activity ceases. Humans in a morgue can have random impulses so complex that a cadaver can sit up from laying on a gurney. Of course, it is a random electrical pulse and so the body then falls back down because there's nothing to keep it aloft.

Videos with narratives like this are designed to mislead, to pull at your heart strings, because those that create them have an agenda to push. Sure, dragging the dolphin before killing it is inhumane, but first and foremost- the world is full of assholes. Assholes come in every shape and size, and every profession. Getting video of a few assholes hacking at a dolphin doesn't mean jack squat. Regardless, look to the animal kingdom as a whole- humans, as a species, are one of the most humane to their prey. The ones who kill their prey faster, only do so out of a natural advantage to overcome their prey- like snakes having venom, to instantly kill (or simply immobilize, in some cases) their prey because chasing them down would be much harder, and they have no appendages with which to grab.

So all in all, if you buy into the video for face value, you might be upset. Taking things like "facts" into consideration, you might see reality a bit clearer. That's the lesson to be learned here.

02-12-2007, 07:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
analog Banned	I'd bet good money that this video is a PETA product. The one-sidedness and forced emotional pandering is right on par with their usual work. Mothers and children cry out while separated? Writhe in agony? What people don't realize is that these are lame ploys. The quickest way to kill any animal, other than straight decapitation, is slicing it's throat open. It's actually a pretty quick death if done deep (correctly) enough. The main arteries that feed the brain are cut, and loss of consciousness can come within seconds of completely interrupted blood flow to the brain. Realize that all the "writhing" you see is the body's electrical activity and muscle contractions, having nothing to do with being conscious, let alone alive. For example, the human heart can beat outside of the body, attached to nothing at all, for up to 20 minutes. That does not mean anything is alive. It simply means that there are electrical impulses still firing within the tissue. Mammals can be dead for some time before all electrical activity ceases. Humans in a morgue can have random impulses so complex that a cadaver can sit up from laying on a gurney. Of course, it is a random electrical pulse and so the body then falls back down because there's nothing to keep it aloft. Videos with narratives like this are designed to mislead, to pull at your heart strings, because those that create them have an agenda to push. Sure, dragging the dolphin before killing it is inhumane, but first and foremost- the world is full of assholes. Assholes come in every shape and size, and every profession. Getting video of a few assholes hacking at a dolphin doesn't mean jack squat. Regardless, look to the animal kingdom as a whole- humans, as a species, are one of the most humane to their prey. The ones who kill their prey faster, only do so out of a natural advantage to overcome their prey- like snakes having venom, to instantly kill (or simply immobilize, in some cases) their prey because chasing them down would be much harder, and they have no appendages with which to grab. So all in all, if you buy into the video for face value, you might be upset. Taking things like "facts" into consideration, you might see reality a bit clearer. That's the lesson to be learned here.