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analog · 02-12-2007, 06:11 PM

How do you think people have been making babies for all of history? They kick all the kids out of the one-room-house so they can get it on, or go out to the forest and copulate under trees until they come back sticky (from tree sap)?

No, they have sex in the house. The kids would probably have been asleep, but we don't know that at all.

This is not to mention that they were not displaying pornography. A man and woman having intercourse is not prurient by definition, nor is it pornographic by any means.

The question I put to the dissenters is this: ok to show her a condom, yes? Explain how it works? Stop me when it's not ok anymore... put it on a banana to show hot to put it on a penis? Put it on a phallic sex aid? Put it on an actual penis? I mean come on. Or how about, this is a picture in a book of a vagina, for learning. This is a picture of a penis. This is an actual penis and vagina. I remember sex ed films in school that would have a cartoon cross-sectioned penis and vagina, and the penis would penetrate the vagina. It would show the semen entering the vagina, and completing the fertilization process for sexual reproduction. So giving the same lesson using the real thing is bad?

I understand that the crux of the issue is the repeated exposure... and sure, if they were educating, she wouldn't need to watch all the time. But here's the thing: Considering no one in this thread has raised a child who watched you have sex, you're not really informed to be able to state that a child would or would not "want to watch that" if it'd been introduced as something natural and not dirty or shameful.

This is somewhat akin to nudists. They don't view their bodies as something to be ashamed of, so they don't build in any reservations about being around naked people. If the kid is taught that sex is a natural thing, something shared between two people, then the kid will not care how much sex they're having or when they're having it. Based on what developmental psychology tells us about the way children learn, they could be playing Scrabble, for all she cares. It's not dirty icky perverted disgusting fucking... it's just... intercourse.

02-12-2007, 06:11 PM	#25 (permalink)
analog Banned	How do you think people have been making babies for all of history? They kick all the kids out of the one-room-house so they can get it on, or go out to the forest and copulate under trees until they come back sticky (from tree sap)? No, they have sex in the house. The kids would probably have been asleep, but we don't know that at all. This is not to mention that they were not displaying pornography. A man and woman having intercourse is not prurient by definition, nor is it pornographic by any means. The question I put to the dissenters is this: ok to show her a condom, yes? Explain how it works? Stop me when it's not ok anymore... put it on a banana to show hot to put it on a penis? Put it on a phallic sex aid? Put it on an actual penis? I mean come on. Or how about, this is a picture in a book of a vagina, for learning. This is a picture of a penis. This is an actual penis and vagina. I remember sex ed films in school that would have a cartoon cross-sectioned penis and vagina, and the penis would penetrate the vagina. It would show the semen entering the vagina, and completing the fertilization process for sexual reproduction. So giving the same lesson using the real thing is bad? I understand that the crux of the issue is the repeated exposure... and sure, if they were educating, she wouldn't need to watch all the time. But here's the thing: Considering no one in this thread has raised a child who watched you have sex, you're not really informed to be able to state that a child would or would not "want to watch that" if it'd been introduced as something natural and not dirty or shameful. This is somewhat akin to nudists. They don't view their bodies as something to be ashamed of, so they don't build in any reservations about being around naked people. If the kid is taught that sex is a natural thing, something shared between two people, then the kid will not care how much sex they're having or when they're having it. Based on what developmental psychology tells us about the way children learn, they could be playing Scrabble, for all she cares. It's not dirty icky perverted disgusting fucking... it's just... intercourse.