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kangaeru · 02-09-2007, 07:54 AM

Yes Ace...sorry for making my point so round-a-bout. Congress is being hypocritical. They've done a lot of chest thumping, but nothing has actually happened.

The two major issues at stake for them here, their jobs and their futures, are antagonistic to one another.

It's a shame people have become so blinded by the conservative/liberal debate that we become pigeon holed into these situations by our own designs.

P.S.

I just remembered the point I meant to get to in my previous post. That scenario of what happens if we pull out of Iraq...everyone in congress knows it's there. Maybe not the exact picture I described, but some form of it. We're pretty good and fucked at this point on the entire Iraq issue, but just throwing a tantrum and taking shots at Bush's policy helps absolutely nobody.

It's like, what do they expect to do, come next election point to the fact that they endorsed a long list of impotent bills aimed at reigning in Bush and making him accountable to congress?

I'm not saying Bush is right to send in more troops...but what else is he going to do at this point? There's not many options. Work with Iran and Syira? Are you kidding me? The shiite militias are getting all their guns, money, and training from where again? Do you really think a rag tag force with zero training would be able to successfully evolve geurilla warfare against the US for this long? Not dealing with Iran isn't a matter of pride, it's a matter of common sense--anything accomplished diplomatically is going to be nothing more than vapor, which in reality will be undermined by both governments.

Anyways...I'm doing it again. Getting back to the point, I don't have any suggestions for how to change the course of the war. The only thing I can think of is martial law in Baghdad until the insurgents are rooted out. Honestly, I hope that is what Bush is planning. Boost the troop levels up, especially in Baghdad, and declare martial law and just clamp down on that city like a vice until order is restored.

What we're doing right now is trying to teach a dog with no leash. No matter how much we scream and yell, it's going to just run around doing whatever the hell it wants. We need to get that leash on there so we have some control, and once the dog has learned to behave, we can take the leash off and it will listen to commands.

By the way, there's going to be no "free democratic" government in Iraq at the immediate end of this. It's going to be somebody's puppet government, so if that dog on a leash analogy bugs you, think about addressing that point first.

02-09-2007, 07:54 AM	#29 (permalink)
kangaeru Crazy Location: on the road to where I want to be...	Yes Ace...sorry for making my point so round-a-bout. Congress is being hypocritical. They've done a lot of chest thumping, but nothing has actually happened. The two major issues at stake for them here, their jobs and their futures, are antagonistic to one another. It's a shame people have become so blinded by the conservative/liberal debate that we become pigeon holed into these situations by our own designs. P.S. I just remembered the point I meant to get to in my previous post. That scenario of what happens if we pull out of Iraq...everyone in congress knows it's there. Maybe not the exact picture I described, but some form of it. We're pretty good and fucked at this point on the entire Iraq issue, but just throwing a tantrum and taking shots at Bush's policy helps absolutely nobody. It's like, what do they expect to do, come next election point to the fact that they endorsed a long list of impotent bills aimed at reigning in Bush and making him accountable to congress? I'm not saying Bush is right to send in more troops...but what else is he going to do at this point? There's not many options. Work with Iran and Syira? Are you kidding me? The shiite militias are getting all their guns, money, and training from where again? Do you really think a rag tag force with zero training would be able to successfully evolve geurilla warfare against the US for this long? Not dealing with Iran isn't a matter of pride, it's a matter of common sense--anything accomplished diplomatically is going to be nothing more than vapor, which in reality will be undermined by both governments. Anyways...I'm doing it again. Getting back to the point, I don't have any suggestions for how to change the course of the war. The only thing I can think of is martial law in Baghdad until the insurgents are rooted out. Honestly, I hope that is what Bush is planning. Boost the troop levels up, especially in Baghdad, and declare martial law and just clamp down on that city like a vice until order is restored. What we're doing right now is trying to teach a dog with no leash. No matter how much we scream and yell, it's going to just run around doing whatever the hell it wants. We need to get that leash on there so we have some control, and once the dog has learned to behave, we can take the leash off and it will listen to commands. By the way, there's going to be no "free democratic" government in Iraq at the immediate end of this. It's going to be somebody's puppet government, so if that dog on a leash analogy bugs you, think about addressing that point first. __________________ Dont be afraid to change who you are for what you could become Last edited by kangaeru; 02-09-2007 at 08:27 AM..