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Originally Posted by Gilda
This sentence contradicts itself. Worshipping something is predicated on a belief in its existence.
The person in the story equating atheism with devil worship was a Christian, so it is safe to assume that by "devil worship" she meant the Christian conception of the devil as a literal being. The irony in her statement comes from the idea that she seems to believe that there are people who don't believe in the Christian devil, yet worship him anyway.
The system of belief you describe is an atheistic belief system that only becomes devil worship if you accept the existence of the devil, at which point it becomes a theistic, or at least a deistic system.
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I honestly have never heard anyone who actually is a literal "Devil Worshipper".
There are many books on this subject, and they are amazingly interesting if you have an open mind, and are interested in religions.
Yes, a literal "Devil worshipper" is a thiest. But the mass majority of people who call themselves devil worshippers, do not believe that a devil, a god, or any supernatural creator/puppet master actually exist. Which by definition makes them athiest.
Perhaps in this case, it's safe to assume the christian meant the literal sense of the phrase.
but I was merely responding to
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Did you friend point out that devil worshippers, by definition, cannot be atheists?
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Which isn't true.
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Yes, I can. Simply because you don't believe it happens, doesn't mean that it doesn't happen. I asked this question before, but doesn't removing God or the mention of religion from the public sector promote the atheist agenda?
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You can, but you'd be wrong. Removing god from public promotes athiest agenda?
That's like saying removing nudists, from daytona beach, is promoting the "Bikini club". No, it's not, it's simply following the rules/laws.
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Which, of course, is nothing like someone telling you that you believe in a fairy tale or God doesn't exist. I've never denied the fact that theists don't try to convert people. I've just found it funny how people seemingly believe that atheists don't do the same.
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I never said athiests don't do it, I said religious people do it much much MUCH more. You can't really argue that since 90% of the population is religious in some facet, you going to tell me that the 10% of athiests are out doing the religious majority?
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That's nothing. Try praying in school without someone stating that you're "Offending" them.
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Not going to bother with this one, simply because it's absolutely incredulous to even equate the two.
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And why, per chance, does it have to be mainstream? You wanted to know of an instance in which atheists debate religious topics in the absence of religious people.
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I wanted an equally credible isntance of it. Not some obscure program that rarely gets listened to/watched, and is KNOWN for bias. That program which I have listened to, is not claiming unbias.
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...You're kidding, right? I'm sorry, but what exactly do you expect to see when you watch CNN? They're not exactly liberal (I'm not sure they ever have been, either). News stations can be as biased as they want, as they're not controlled by the government but by the people who sponsor them. Much like the atheists on their own station, CNN is allowed to run their own agenda.
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Again, I didn't say it was unbias, I said it was portrayed as unbias, just as a news organization should be. Yes, they can be biased if they please, but that's not how they are expected to operate. This is obvious.
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Yes yes... I know... Seperation of Church and State... Yada yada yada...
Anyway, what I (And most other people have a problem with) is when you have a town which is predominantly comprised of one religion, an atheist moves in and then wants to change the way things are run because they're "Offended".
Yeah, if I were in that town in Mississippi, I'd have run the atheists out of town, too. You can have your child not participate in Bible study, but to claim that no one should participate in Bible study because you're offended is, IMO, idiotic. When I was in elementary school and my mom didn't agree with a part of the curriculum, do you know what she did? She wrote a note stating that she wanted me to go elsewhere for the duration of that time. I've never understand how/why people complain about things they don't have to participate in.
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The problem I have with this, is that you think because you are in the majority, you get preferential treatment over the minority. You can try to misinterpret the constitution, and pretend it doesn't adhere to you, because you are the majority, but that is what I'd call idiocy.
Not to mention you saying you would run athiests out of town is a shining example of the intolerance you claim the ahiests have a monopoly on.