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Originally Posted by willravel
There's a difference between questioning and damning. I doubt any atheist would tell a Christian that he or she was going to hell.
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Wouldn't you have to believe in hell first to tell someone they're going their?
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So kids get beaten up for praying in school? I dare you to try and find an article to link to support that. Homosexuals are beaten up often because of their sexual orientation.
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This isn't even close to the point I was making. To say that theists are the only ones who try to conform others to their way of thinking is simply ridiculous.
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Apples and handguns.
In order to equate them, duh. You acted as if it were commonplace in a venue of similar viewership to the linked show above. It's not 50/50 here, it's more like 99/1, and it's not in your favor. Basically, you proved that the point you're trying to make isn't sound by showing how little you have to support it.
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Not quite. Now you're saying that it's all right to run your own agenda for so long as it's not viewed by the majority. Sorry, but it just doesn't work that way. CNN, just like that atheist TV show, is privately owned and run. They're under no obligation to show anything which doesn't fit their agenda.
You can sit here and try to nitpick at that argument as much as you want, but that's the bottom line. Before you finger point at CNN, you'd better take a good, hard look at your own camp.
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Just because something is a way doesn't mean that's the best way. Unbiased news is the friend of the informed man. Biased news is the friend of the mindless man. Feel free to quote me on that. CNN can go on and show children being raped, but that doesn't make it right.
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You can find unbiased news in the United States? Sorry, but all TV stations have their own agendas to run. The atheists run theirs without much backlash, so why can't CNN?
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One of the most important princeples of a non theocracy. Wait, do you want the US to be a theocracy?
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Isn't it anyway?
Ya' know... One of the questions that they usually ask the presidency runners is "How does your faith affects your political position (Or something of the sort)?" So much for separation of Church and State.
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That's a case of "you are not your own country, so shape up and follow the rules and don't be dicks".
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Well, for one, I don't believe I ever said that. People can have different belief systems; I simply have a problem when one tries to impose their will on the other. I'd be willing to bet that the Mississippi school would have gladly let the kid be exempt from Bible study if his parents asked for him too. I've got a problem with the
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That not only makes you a bigot, but a dick.
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Naw, it wouldn't. I wouldn't run them out for being atheists (That'd be dumb), but because they want to prevent everyone else from participating in Bible study rather than simply asking their child to be removed from Bible study.
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Prayer has no place in public schools, and there are laws to back me up on that. If you want to break the law, go right ahead, but you won't win any arguments that way. You might actually scare people from your camp.
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Yes yes... I've heard this argument before.
The question still remains, what exactly is the opposition if it wouldn'e be required of anyone to participate (Sorta' like not saying the PoA)? Yeah. I know. I won't get a straight answer.
I've actually got a brilliant idea. Instead of prayer, let's just call it "Talk to whomever you believe in, if you believe in anything" time. It's all inclusive and couldn't possibly offend anyone
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Also, I REALLY WISH RELIGIOUS PEOPLE WOULD READ THEIR OWN TEXTS: Matthew 6:5-6
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Oh, and for the record, I fully well know what those verses mean (Yes, I have read the Bible, ya' know). They don't say not to engage in public prayer, but not to engage in public prayer as means showing you're superiority to anyone else. Would you care to distort anymore Bible verses?