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Originally Posted by Halx
Not sure I follow you IL. I suppose I need to be educated about these religious debates involving only athiests.
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Originally Posted by willravel
Hey, IL, when have you seen an all athiest debate about religion?
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Have any of you ever listened/watched to "The Atheist Viewpoint"? I'll admit that I haven't heard too many broadcasts (About two or three), but they quite frequently discuss religious viewpoints as they see it. Personally, I just don't see how this is any different than what you seem opposed to. A group of theists discussing atheism is fundamentally no different than a group of atheists discussing theism.
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Originally Posted by ngdawg
First off, it that is a public school, it is not allowed to do 'bible study', so the parents were within their rights.
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I'd have to side with the school on this one. If one family had such a problem with Bible study, then they could have either requested that their child not be required to participate or, if that wasn't good enough for them, moved elsewhere (Which they eventually did). The beliefs of a few shouldn't infringe on the beliefs of the majority.
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1-3% of the US population is athiestic? I'd say that's off...
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http://www.adherents.com/rel_USA.html
That's the newest data I could find on the internet, unless you can find something newer.
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Wrong, lady, freedom of religion DOES mean freedom from religion.
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And it also means the freedom to practice any religion one wants. Slightly a stretch, but wouldn't not teaching any religion of any sort conform to atheist beliefs over theist beliefs?
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Karen Hunter needs to shut up. At least the gentleman realizes there's differences of beliefs and they should be respected if not agreed with.
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Sure, every religion should be respected but it's generally atheists who make the biggest fuss over the most trivial of matters, such as removing the word "God" from the PoA or removing the word "God" from the US currency or just plain and simply removing the word "God" where ever it might appear. Here's a true story for you all: When I was in 7th grade we had a pep rally at the end of "Black History Month" (February). During the pep rally some kid sung the black national anthem, which happens to mention God. You wouldn't believe the uproar caused by the students and the parents who didn't believe in God. The entire thing ended up on the news and, in the end, the principal ended up stepping down and the assistant deputy officer ended up transferring to another school. The next year when they held the pep rally they ended up only singing the first half of the black national anthem, so as to not offend the atheists.
At the risk of sounding beligerent, my problem with atheists is that, many times, they're far more bigotted and intolerant than the religious people which they typically attack. Just take a look at any major atheist forum. They usually have a section dedicated to disproving other people's religious beliefs. In many cases it seems that atheists are more concerned with disproving other people's religions than they are living their own lives.
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As for getting a panel of atheists to 'bash religion', the difference is, many if not most atheists were raised in a religious background or sought out religious teachings before deciding, as Willravel put it, to not accept magic. I find that no one who has a fervent religious belief knows squat about an atheists mindset and doesn't care to.
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So you're saying it's possible for an atheist to know about theist beliefs but impossible for a theist to know about atheist beliefs? Or that atheists or more knowledgeable than theists? I have a problem with that assertion. If you've ever sat down and listened/saw a debate between atheists concerning other religions that you'd notice that they're just as condescending as their theist counterparts.