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Originally Posted by Greg700
I think you have too many forums.
TFP is becoming too...compartmented. I am sure it is not the only issue, but I think you are giving people too many choices, and too many opportunities to miss out on a good discussion.
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Well, we have scaled back the number of forums due to this before. I think that the number of forums has been pretty constant from what we refer to as "before", until now, so I'm not sure if that's something that put us where we are. I think a larger part of it is how we all interact with each other on those forums. It's a good observation, though, and worth looking into even if it's not the reason why we're "here".
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Rather than two seperate forums, you could perhaps let members choose what content they want to be exposed to when they sign up...Maybe a question in their personal settings: "Do you want access to adult content on this forum?" Something you have to opt into rather than get automatically after a particular post count.
That way the site would by default be SFW while pornhounds would be able to get what they came for also.
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I think the main issue we're having is that the porn is there at all, not whether or not some people can access it. Being able to choose to not see it won't change the opinion formed by a person on the whole of the place... the "oh, there's porn here" likely won't go away if we put an option to eliminate that area from your view. For example: you want to introduce a friend or coworker to the TFP... the issue is not that they can see the porn, it's that it's here at all. I think they don't want to link a friend to something that's a discussion board, only to find out later that it also contains porn. Good observation, though.
That's an interesting idea, to make the TFP more "NSFW"-friendly for those who surf at work. You can already do that, though, by "collapsing" the erogenous zone forum in the main forum page... you click the arrow on the right and it only shows "Erogenous Zone", not the names of the forums or the threads within. So that's probably a good enough start for most people.
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Of course, part of the problem is that the topics never change. Sexuality is always going to have some 19 year old guy wondering if he should ask some girl out or how to give oral sex. I think the older members of this board become less likely to take the time they used to to answer such questions.
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We've actually started work on something to address the fairly recurring themes in the Sexuality forum... not necessarily to cut down on the "same old, same old", but so that other threads can really stand out by not being buried in things we see frequently. In this way, people will know that their questions/issues/etc will be heard loud and clear, and not lost in the shuffle.
I also liked some suggestions on further condensing certain forum groups, though I'm not sure all of them need to be combined. I think a lot of the major ones have lives of their own, and enough posting that it would overcrowd other forums if they were merged. All the interests forums are just so that people have places to go to talk as much as they want about specific things... easier to go to a forum when you want to talk about cars, than have to sift through who knows how many threads in a more generalized forum.
I see a great amount of thinking and ideas in here, and that's great. Keep it up, all.
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Originally Posted by pigglet
in regards to the thread(s) with jinn, i haven't reviewed the threads in a while to get the exact details, but in particular the thread about depression - what i recall is a lot of people telling jinn that he had no fucking idea what he was talking about, and that he might want to do some reading on depression. as i recall, jinn's basic premise was the people who didn't overcome their depression and who allowed it to substantially interfere with their daily lives were losers, and apparently some members felt that was an incredibly stupid thing to say. i agree - that was an incredibly stupid thing to say. i'm not sure i'm really against allowing members to express that viewpoint. jinn has also received his share of love on the boards as well. how do you tell someone they have no idea what they're talking about, without it coming off as being personal - particulary if they make the op of a personal/opinion-based tone?
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I think that's a great observation, and part of where it seems that it got personal in that thread. If someone says, "that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard", that's not a truly personal comment, and yet it's not totally impersonal, either. If a person feels strongly enough in an opinion, they will feel personally attacked even if you go to extreme length to specify that you're only critiquing the opinion. I think that this is part of this issue- when you bare your heart and soul into a topic, we need to understand that someone disagreeing with our personal viewpoints doesn't mean they're going after you, personally. Once a few people had said how they felt about his opinion, it quickly escalated into him feeling personally attacked because he felt strongly about that opinion.
Part of our growth should be recognizing in ourselves when we're particularly invested in a subject, and making sure we separate out "truly personal" from what we feel is personal just because we're intimately attached to the opinion. Great point, pigglet.