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Old 02-03-2007, 02:48 AM   #19 (permalink)
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There is a lot to absorb here.

One of the interesting aspects of C:A is that a lot of it feels like the Nonsense part of TFP used to feel like. This is not a bad thing.

Nonsense, to me and many others, was the place where were most creative. Yes, some of the threads were juvenile, puerile and lot's of other "iles" but I made more connection there than I ever did in Politics.

Taking Nonsense out of the "new posts" was a mistake. It relegated a vibrant and creative part of the board into a backwater. The demand for this sort of activity is clear.

With regards to C:A and the attacks that were happening there (no fingers are being pointed), much of it has been brewing here for some time (I don't think many are aware of this). It was a boil that needed to be lanced (sadly there is no anesthetic for this sort of procedure). The thing for me is that it didn't take opening a new Forum to achieve this result.

All of the complaints and issues could have been solved here. I agree with the earlier comments made that an adjustment of the rules could have perhaps had better results.

I would also like to back up Supple Cow to an extent. Yes, Hal owns the place. He set this beast in motion. But it isn't just his place. Over the last five years WE have made this place, and that I mean all of the users and mods and admin. There is no one person responsible for all of this. Evolution isn't just one guy.

Recognizing this, it is important to remember that as a member you have a responsibility to work towards making the place the ideal place. If you were to just flame and shout garbage all over the place, it loses the element that allows discussion and the things Shakran mentioned above. However, as a member you shouldn't feel that you cannot call a spade a spade. Calling someone on their bullshit should never be an issue.

I think it was stated very clearly above: "Whatever you have to say, say it with maturity." There are ways to tell someone they are being an asshole without necessarily calling them an asshole. Of course, sometimes Asshole is the only appropriate word and it is worth the warning.

I have no conclusion to this... only that we should be more open when there are big 400 pound issues that are killing the board.
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