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Old 01-29-2007, 10:39 AM   #15 (permalink)
Yakk
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Originally Posted by Sharon
This is not realistic - managers are managers because they are meant to make decisions based on the information available to them.
And you, as an employee, should look out for your own best interests.

"Money is tight" is not a reason why they are asking you to work more or why you shouldn't get a raise. You aren't getting a raise and they are getting you to work harder because they choose to make you work harder.

Your alternative is simple -- either accept that you will work harder and get less in the way of raises, with no expectation of compensation later, an increased likelyhood of getting fired (money is tight), or you should get a new job.

If they provide more information that actually backs up their claims, and provide some evidence that this will be temporary (beyond a vague reassurance), then you have less reason to find a new job.

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They are not obligated to give you all the information they use to make their decision.
No, they are not. But lacking that information, or anything in writing, you should take vague reassurances as being meaningless. Money could be tight because they decided to pay the CEO an extra few million this year, or it could be tight because you are undergoing growing pains, or it could be tight because your company is on it's way to become bankrupt.

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Whether they share that information with you or not is not your decision - in fact depending on hierarchy it may also not be their decision to make.
If your company is doing poorly and they are asking you to do more work, cut back on your raises, and in general pay you less -- you should see if you can get a job where this isn't a problem.

It is their choice whether or not they share the information with you -- but you should take a lack of any hard indication that it will get better, or that you will be compensated for your harder work later as a sign that you should be looking for new work.

I'm not saying "go off and demand that they tell you why money is tight, demand delayed incentives".

I'm saying "when your company starts going south, by default get the fuck out of there. However, if you are given delayed incentives or a reason to believe it will be temporary, then you might think about staying".

There is very little to be gained working for a company going through financial problems. You can sometimes get good delayed incentives (stock options and the like) -- but lacking that, it is in your best interests to find a new job with a company that won't go belly up, lay you off at a whim, ask you to work longer hours, and can give give raises commesurate with your productivity.
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