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Originally Posted by ratbastid
Oh, I didn't say that. The Bush Administration has been a sucking disaster, both domestically and in our relations to other countries, and it has done real and lasting damage to the country.
I just don't care for the term "failed presidency". Look, it was (er... will have been) eight years long. It was a whole presidency. The man succeeded at being president. Didn't, IMO, succeed at much else, but nobody can argue he didn't succeed at becoming and being the president. So his presidency obviously didn't fail. Most every initiative or policy did. But not the presidency itself. He's president. No two ways about that.
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Can you tell me how you're disagreeing with me? Other than pointing out various ways that he's succeded (being president, holding the union together, etc.), how is what you said much different than what I did?
Since this is the second time this has happened to me in this thread, I'm starting to wonder if I've somehow managed to convey not only a tone of voice but a tone of voice that implies that I'm being sarcastic or disagreeable in some way...