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loquitur · 01-25-2007, 10:06 AM

I find it interesting that people here seem to put a lot of stock in polls, yet no one mentioned that Bush's SOTU polled pretty well, if you believe CNN: http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/23/sotu.poll/ This doesnt' tell you anything about whether Bush really is right or not, of course. Me, I didn't watch the speech; I'm finding it increasingly painful to listen to his speaking because he sounds like he's speaking a foreign language.

This presidency is in approximately the same position as Truman's was in 1950, including the absymal approval ratings. I suspect that historians would have come up with a pie chart similar to the one in #30 if they had been polled in January 1951. We are way too close to the events to make judgments, and the effect of Bush's decisions won't be apparent until a few years from now at the very least.

BTW, George Mason Univ is a libertarian-leaning (i.e. rightish, but not theocon or socially conservative) institution. Which isn't to say everyone there is libertarian, but more than on your average campus.

I guess what I'm seeing here is that everyone views the speech, or Cheney's interview, through a lens of whether they like this administration or not, and it makes almost no difference what these people say. If you like Bush the speech was masterly, and if you don't it was a pack of lies.

01-25-2007, 10:06 AM	#41 (permalink)
loquitur Junkie Location: NYC	I find it interesting that people here seem to put a lot of stock in polls, yet no one mentioned that Bush's SOTU polled pretty well, if you believe CNN: http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/23/sotu.poll/ This doesnt' tell you anything about whether Bush really is right or not, of course. Me, I didn't watch the speech; I'm finding it increasingly painful to listen to his speaking because he sounds like he's speaking a foreign language. This presidency is in approximately the same position as Truman's was in 1950, including the absymal approval ratings. I suspect that historians would have come up with a pie chart similar to the one in #30 if they had been polled in January 1951. We are way too close to the events to make judgments, and the effect of Bush's decisions won't be apparent until a few years from now at the very least. BTW, George Mason Univ is a libertarian-leaning (i.e. rightish, but not theocon or socially conservative) institution. Which isn't to say everyone there is libertarian, but more than on your average campus. I guess what I'm seeing here is that everyone views the speech, or Cheney's interview, through a lens of whether they like this administration or not, and it makes almost no difference what these people say. If you like Bush the speech was masterly, and if you don't it was a pack of lies.