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Old 01-23-2007, 10:08 PM   #69 (permalink)
pan6467
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Wow that brought back some interesting names and some friends gone but not forgotten.

BTW I scored a 16 now, back in '05 when I originally took it here I was at 12. I guess I have grown a little.

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Originally Posted by loquitur
Pan, you're collapsing two issues here. One is whether a person's views are extreme, the other is whether a person is flexible. Two very different things. Ted Kennedy, for instance, is pretty far to the left (at least if you take his public pronouncements at face value). But he knows that if he insists everything has to be 100% his way he'll never get anything done, so he will accept half a loaf if need be. His views haven't changed - he just wants to get things done, which is how he's lasted as long as he has. Ditto for Nancy Pelosi, who is one of the leftiest members of Congress - she's smart enough to try to achieve what's achievable, even if it means some of the loons in her district will accuse her of selling out by not insisting that things have to be their way.
And while some may view Kennedy and Pelosi extremists... they aren't as you stated they are willing to bend to get the job done.

What I'm trying to get across is that there are people on these politics boards, and on the radio and in life, that are so tied to party line and their beliefs that they would refuse any compromise because it doesn't fit into "their picture".

As you said there are those extremists "loons" that think compromise is selling out.

Say Kennedy gives in on an issue to get something else through.... the extremists start crying how he sold out and isn't "Left" enough. Meanwhile they totally dismiss the fact that the GOP had to make sacrifices also.

Or Bush makes a deal and the extremists rake him over the coals talking about how he isn't "Right" enough. Again, dismissing the fact that the GOP may have gotten an item they really wanted.

Thus Kennedy and Bush would not be "extreme" enough and thus to the extremist even those 2 are too centrist.

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I believe it was Glenn Reynolds who said gays should be allowed to marry and keep a house full of guns.
Here I thought it was corporal Max Klinger on M*A*S*H
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