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Thanks ratbastid.
I have a question for you though: are there thread limits here?
Are there limits as to the number of pages within any given thread?
Are people forbidden to re-establish the OP whenver they choose to in the event of an incidental threadjack?
This thread took on a non-serious tone very early on (not by me), and admittedly got sidetracked.
Sometimes threads take on a life of their own, like crystals.
So would you say it is now impossible to re-establish the intended discussion in the op?
I definitely wouldn't.
I have faith in the vigor, vitality and prolificacy of the posters here.
I await the return to the discussion of the Death of Freedom in America, al-Qaeda, the GWOT, etc.
Sorry about the threadjack.
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