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Old 01-17-2007, 11:45 AM   #112 (permalink)
aceventura3
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Originally Posted by willravel
Top Dog? At what?
"THE" Top Dog, not "A" top dog.

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Another military officer who thinks it's okay to kill anyone as long as you're ordered top do it, eh?
No. Take another guess.

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Originally Posted by dc_dux
The woman I live with is Israeli. I just read this to her and she was amazed at the naivete and ignorance (her words) of some Americans.
I don't know if you read her my position in context or just choose to pick that quote out of the blue. If she has an opinion encourage her to share them. I know there are many Israeli people against our military action in Iraq, my Isrraeli friend is against our military action in Iraq also.

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Iraq hasnt been a serious threat to Israel since they bombed the Iraqi nuclear facilities in the early 80s. The scud missles of the first gulf war were hardly considered a threat. Saddam's payment of money to suicide bombers was also tragic, but not a serious security threat to Israel. The Israelis have recognized for years that Saddam had neither the capacity nor the ideological interest to instigate anything beyond those limited symbolic actions because he knew it would result in a deadly reprisal.
O.k. you didn't think Sadaam was a threat. I did. What's next.

You say the missles fired at Isreal were not considered a threat. I did, on two levels. The first is obvious. The second had to do with his unsuccesful attempt to get Ireal involved in the war offensively. If he had suceeded what do you and your friend think would have happened? Didn't that plan put Isreal at risk? What makes you and your friend think his goals changed? What was he doing with the billions he was getting through the Oil for Food scandal?
I stand by my position - Sadaam needed to be removed from power, and it should have happend during the first Gulf War.

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The real threat to Israel is the instability in Iraq and the growing influence of Iran, all brought about by our invasion of Iraq.
I say this for the last time. Iraq is in chaos. We are in-part to blame. We need to fix it. Sending in additional troops with a show of force is needed to get the situation under control. When the situation is under control, it will be up to the Iraqi people to determine their futures.

On a side note. I am amazed by the number of people who would ignore direct verbal threats. I guess I was raised on the "wrong side of the tracks", when people make direct verbal threats, I always assume they intend to act on the threat.
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