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Old 01-15-2007, 03:11 PM   #72 (permalink)
Chimera
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Originally Posted by aceventura3
Some of us, including the Bush administration, still believe we can win, that we can accomplish our original goals.

This would entail finding and destroying stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction, which was the original goal I believe. We would also need to liberate the Iraqi people, as this became the goal shortly after the first one was discarded. Unfortunately, neither of these seem likely in the near future, if only because the first one does not exist, and the second requires ending a civil war.



Sadaam is dead. Sadaam's regime no longer exists.
The connection with 9/11 is Islamic extremist are at war with us. The war front is currently in Iraq. If we leave Iraq, the war won't end. If Islamic extremist obtain and hold Iraq they will expand their offensive. I don't know what would be next, but you can believe the war will continue.

Yes it will, But WE chose this war, and in my opinion mistakenly chose Iraq as the battlefield, rather than Afghanistan. Imagine what we would have accomplished if the Afghan Government had half the resources we have poured into Iraq. Likely there would now be a relatively stable, and growing democracy in the middle east, with a very strong U.S. military presence backing the westernized Afghanistan.
Do you think others.....might be envious of such a place, and perhaps hope for a similar change? Maybe say....The Kurds?




I think you nailed it. Some think this is some kind of a "feel good war", "a war of choice", " a war of US emperialism", etc, etc. This is a war to defend our freedom and the freedom of billions of people in the world, it is not about "national psyche" but far too many people see it in those terms or in terms of "feelings".
In my experience very few people opposed to this war base the leaning on these "Feelings" alone...but indeed this is a war of choice. We Invaded a nation based on poor intellegence, and cannot seem to protect the very people we supposedly Liberated. There was no "Iraqi Attack" which we reacted to, and in fact they were less guilty than many of our close allies. Likely we wont know for a decade at best, why we actually invaded Iraq, as the administration has consistantly blocked access to the Data needed to get the truth.....But it is clear to me, the reasons are not the ones we have been given.
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