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Originally Posted by desal75
I'm intrigued by the way this thread has become less about politics and more about teaching me how to use this forum. What is Fark anyway?
As for palatable, I wasn't trying to force what I think is or isn't on anyone. I was simply stating that what is needed is different to different people. Some would argue that any loss of life due to war is unnecessary. Others see justifiable reasons for killing and death, no matter on what scale.
The grey area is that in any conflict there is no easy answer. Especially in conflicts like Iraq where the opposition isn't easily distinguished and the goals not easily expressed. Even the notion of winning or losing a conflict such as this is not easily defined. Some would say victory has already been achieved while some would argue that victory can never be attained. The grey is that both arguements have merit.
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Thank you for finally expressing an opinion beyond a soundbite/drive-by.
Back on topic, I doubt that I can find anyone stupid enough to try to argue that Iraq isn't SOME form of quagmire at this point, at least based on the information we have now. We're back to figuring out the "least bad" option to extricate ourselves whiles still maintaining some sort of dignity. In the meantime, I just received an email from a client purported to have originated from some Marines in Iraq who, by standing in formation, spelled out something to the effect of "we remember 9/11 and why we are here" despite the fact that the upper echelons of government have admitted that there's no real plausible link between the Saddam regime and the terrorist attacks. I'm starting to come to the conclusion that any sort of pullback without at least the facade of victory would do long-term damage to the national psyche. It may be that that damage is necessary or even welcomed, but I'm not sure of either.