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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
I have NEVER said that the republicans have done much better than anyone else. They may have done less damage, but only slightly.
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Alright, I'll give you that, my apologies.
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Also, what we have today is not capitalism, unless you wish to redefine capitalism.
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Yes, it is. The almighty dollar is the only thing that matters. That's capitalism in a nutshell.
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If people still wish to deny that what we have is fascism, well they can deny all they want, but thats still what we have.
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Considering you still haven't managed to point us to a definition of fascism that differs enough from it's actual definition to make your point valid, I'm gonna go ahead and call BS on that one.
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The socialists changed so much of the united states until Reagan that they won. The only thing that the republicans have done is alter the new deal to benefit big business, which still isn't capitalism.
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Socialism and big business are not generally used in the same sentence - at least not without a derisive snort.
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Trickle down economics would have been a great economy booster, had it been limited to a very short term
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If trickle down economics would have worked at all (it wouldn't, it's inherently flawed) it would have had to be instituted more than short term, because it would take awhile for that wealth to trickle down to the masses. Of course, the fact that it simply cannot work, at all, ever, makes all of this moot.
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...much like the new deal. patents and intellectual property laws were abused to the point of isolating a specific industry to benefit just a few. That is the fault of both parties. Blame the new deal for fostering big business to get people working.
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The new deal got people jobs. Twisting that idea into allowing corporations to get away with damn near anything was never part of the new deal.
It's not fascism. Go get a dictionary.
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for putting profit on the stock market and hampering small business.
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If you think the problem stops at the stock market, you've got another think coming. It's corporate greed, plain and simple. Look, if we're going purely on stock performance, then we don't have to pay the CEO hundreds of millions of dollars - - no, the CEO is screwing over the little guy because it means he gets one more mansion.
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how will this revolution be attained? sticks and stones?
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Pure economics. Used to be laborers were vastly underpaid and overworked. Then they got together and formed unions. That's coming for the white collar workers as well - - it's the only way for them to survive.
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what will happen when your property is taken away to increase a tax base?
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What do you mean WHEN? It's already happening. Eminent domain has turned into "we'll steal your land and give it to the highest bidder."
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what will you do when your living area will be searched for anything illegal, at will?
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That has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand.
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No revolution will happen if people do not have the means.
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OK fine, you want people to have guns. Stop bringing EVERY thread around to that, it's old and annoying. I'm not even going to address it here because, again, it has nothing to do with this topic.
I'll tell you how government can stop this mass downsizing trend that's destroying the middle class. Pass a two-fronted legislation requiring unemployment benefits for at least a decade after you downsize someone, and requiring large companies to extend the same benefits to independent contractors as they do to regular employees. Remove the profitability of treating people like chattel, and the corporations will stop doing it. It's a whole lot cheaper to keep that well trained worker on than it is to pay his salary for 10 years AND pay the guy in India who took over his job.
Legislation taxing the holy crap out of imported labor would also help - I'm thinking a variable tax based on the gap between the US worker and his foreign replacement. If your US worker made $20 an hour, and your 3rd world worker makes $1, then the tax is $19 an hour. Remove the profit from the unpalatable activities, and they'll magically stop.